Comments for Death by Meat at http://www.randi.org/site , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://www.randi.org/site Tue, 21 May 2013 10:22:36 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26487 [quote] Beer is a processed food for example. It has been altered and preserved from its original form, and is still quite tasty and enjoyable.[/quote] Beer is a food? Enjoyable it maybe for some but it's mostly calories with hardy any nutritional value. - Rrose Selavy Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:44:32 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26458 Processed meat does usually mean something a bit more specific than the "processed food" catch-all. It refers to cold cuts, ham, bacon, sausages, hot dogs, and other servings of meat that have been cured or preserved / flavoured with salts and chemicals. - Matt_D Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:52:20 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26455 The most important statement, in this group looking at half a million people was this: After correction for measurement error, red meat intake was no longer associated with mortality, and there was no association with the consumption of poultry." --- the other was that while smoking was pointed out as a bad behavior with eating processed meat- the relative risk of eating that quantity of processed meat was low, while the relative risk of smoking is high. They cannot separate them out, and cannot account for smoking in that. More about this on my blog here: http://budurl.com/redmeatlive - tlsimpson Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:49:01 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26454 "The term "processed" usually means it has been enriched with more additives than "unprocessed" meat. The additional additives may or may not have health impacts over time." This is partially true and is probably what the author or study refers too. All commercial food is processed to some degree, which is why they call them food processing plants. Plant and animal foods have to be picked, sorted, killed and or butchered to get to a market and this is called processing. It would be more accurate to use specific preservative than to use the blanket term "processed", which is just fear mongering. Beer is a processed food for example. It has been altered and preserved from its original form, and is still quite tasty and enjoyable. - xxi_centuryboy Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:50:59 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26453 You don't eat all the fat that cooks off, though, so 160g is *still* rather more than 4-5 slices. Well. You eat the fat if you save it and use it for cooking something else, as earlier generations tended to, but I suspect most don't do that anymore. - lytrigian Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:52:41 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26452 I guess my main point was the study was not talking about a whole package of bacon a day, but only about a third of a package; 4-5 slices. This is an amount more likely to be ingested by most people. I know I have no trouble with that amount! - OPa Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:54:11 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26451 Quoth OPa: "Or is my math messed up?" I took the context "Bacon is about 5-10g per slice (depending on brand and cooking)" to mean that they measured weight after cooking. Now... you'd have to like your bacon pretty crispy if you're in the habit of cooking off 2/3 of its weight, but it's at least believable that you'd sizzle off some water and leave some fat in the pan. - powerfulmojo Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:42:07 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26450 A pound is 454 grams, according to my bacon package. Regular slice bacon runs about 16 pieces per package. So that comes out to about 29 grams per slice, not just 5-10. 160 grams would be just more than a third of a package, not a whole package. Or is my math messed up? - OPa Mon, 11 Mar 2013 01:09:10 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26449 @SheldonHelms The term "processed" [i]usually[/i] means it has been enriched with more additives than "unprocessed" meat. The additional additives may or may not have health impacts over time. - Lucas Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:16:19 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/2043-death-by-meat.html#comment-26447 I keep hearing this word "processed" thrown around as if it has scientific value. No one seems to be able to define it, though. Is meat "processing" adding some harmful chemical to our food? All the term seems to do is serve as a spooky placeholder for "evil" food producers. - SheldonHelms Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:04:37 +0100