Comments for Magic Water at http://www.randi.org/site , comment 1 to 12 out of 12 comments http://www.randi.org/site Tue, 21 May 2013 11:23:02 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-25011 http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-must-ban-dangerous-homoeopathy-7576625.html The wheels coming off the homoeopathy wagon? - malcolmsargeant Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:39:08 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-25010 My favorite was the guy from the Homeopathy: Quackery or the Future of Medicine debate who went after Dr. Novella and said that water could be in different structures just like crystal or diamond! Except... both of those are solids and water molecules are constantly bouncing around. The only thing special about the structure of water is that it doesn't fly up and become a gas instantly due to the cohesion attraction of its polar structure. Of course, it does become a gas slowly over time at room temperature... - willradik Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:44:45 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24980 Amazing they've actually gone Penta not one, but TWO better. I wonder if they charge 3 times as much for it too. - lytrigian Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:38:36 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24962 Etherium could conceivably have its roots in MTG (Magic The Gathering): http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Etherium It would not surprise me at all. - Anaglyph Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:24:18 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24961 http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2012/03/boiron-settles-for-12m-to-stop-homeopathy-lawsuits.html - garyg Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:53:01 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24959 For a science fair one year, my daughter tested a number of claims for "healing magnets" on various slabs of pork. While she had a gauss meter, she also tested the claim that spring water is magnetic and remains magnetic for 24 hours after it is taken out of the earth. She got some fresh spring water from a business in the Colorado mountains, and of course, it registered nothing, and nothing different than tap water or "old" spring water. - LindaRosaRN Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:03:44 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24958 I was intrigued by Etherium Gold so I followed the link on the starfire water website to find this: "Because gold is one of the minerals know for its anti-inflammatory properties. Gold has long been know as money. But the truth is, it has a lot of other health benefits other than being rich..." and a lot more wonderfully scientific sounding descriptions that tell me nothing. Then it makes a reference to "Angstrom gold". I've never heard of Angstrom gold but that's OK. I have a friend that knows everything. :) My friend Google pointed me to [url]http://www.angstrom-mineral.com/angstrom-minerals/angstrom-gold.html[/url] which tells me "Gold is one of the minerals know for its anti-inflammatory properties. Gold has long been know as money. But the truth is, it has a lot of other health benefits other than being rich..." and continues pretty much word for word the same as Starfire water's website. Are Starfire water and Angstrom Minerals the same company or did one woo monger copy the other? I guess we'll never know. - FrankH Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:05:52 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24957 At the very heart of the water scam, in whatever form it takes (kabalah blah blah was one here in UK a while back), the raw material is so cheap that whatever nonsense 'processes' the fraudsters put the water through, it still has that magic property of massive margins. Simple eh! That old low cost/high price/must be marvellous formula. - Ricsuth Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:02:31 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24956 >"The amount of energy increase emanating from the body after drinking structured water has been documented and recorded using Kirlian photography." 16 years ago I sent a friend who was having her "aura" read an article about Kirlian photography, explaining that even INanimate objects have an "aura". - garyg Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:19:56 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24953 it's a nice touch where they use woo-woo to 'prove' their woo-woo. From their website, "The amount of energy increase emanating from the body after drinking structured water has been documented and recorded using Kirlian photography." This uses up 2 of my 6 impossible things before breakfast. - jsowers Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:53:39 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24952 [i]/sarcasm on[/i] Well... aren't all of us here such clever skeptics aren't we? Because we all know about these scams, correct? [i]/sarcasm off[/i] ;) Seriously though, I'd like to figure out how get my gullible friends, neighbors, co-workers and even strangers to quickly realize these kinds of products only separate them from their hard earned cash. I've said things to them such as "That stuff does not work at all and you're wasting your money!" and the usual response is "I just [i][b]know[/b][/i] it works and who do you think [i][b]you[/b][/i] are telling me what to do?" I like EarlyOut's comments about ice and seltzer. It would be nice to get the gullible folks to laugh and say "Oh yeah, come to think of it, this stuff [i][b]is[/b][/i] nonsense!" - Willy K Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:29:58 +0100 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1652-magic-water.html#comment-24951 Of course water can be structured. It's called ice. ;) And surely you've had energized water, water that makes the roof of your mouth tingle. It's called seltzer. It's truly galling that people make vast amounts of money with this kind of nonsense, that the government rarely gets them shut down, and that when they do get shut down, they just reincorporate somewhere else and continue bilking the rubes. - EarlyOut Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:37:18 +0100