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Gallery of Woo PDF Print E-mail
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Written by Jeff Wagg   
Wednesday, 11 August 2010 09:48

smokingladyLest you think that quack treatments are on the way out, let this collection from Canada's CBC refresh your memory. There is very little commentary on the photos, though a spirited debate rages in the comments below.

"Ancient wisdom" persists even today. Often it does no harm; sometimes it's deadly. What it isn't is progressive – no one is learning how to "perfect" these techniques or make them better, because no one is thinking about mechanisms or trying to explain their efficacy (or lack thereof). Modern medical science, on the other hand, is a never ending quest for the next better thing and we have much better things now.

So while these pictures are interesting, quirky, and in some cases downright silly, other pictures are truly astounding.

Yesterday, I received a call from none other than James Randi. This is hardly surprising – I work for the man – but he called me overjoyed at something he had just recevied that morning. It was the data from his recent PET scan.

A PET scan is a diagnostic tool. It doesn't treat anything, nor is it designed to. But it does allow you to look through the human body without a single incision. Think about that for a moment. We can now see inside the human body without damaging it.

It wasn't "ancient wisdom" that brought us this; it was the curiousity and entrepreneurial spirit of men and women over the years working hard to solve problems and make things better. And the reason that there is no one making, say cupping, "better" is that it either doesn't do anything, or better pain relief modalities have been found.

Randi let me play with the included software a bit. I was able to travel anywhere in his body and see whatever was there. It was truly magical, but unlike magic, it was real. Do I understand how it works? Only a little bit. I understand that Positron Emission Tomography bombards the body with gamma rays, and this allows radioactive glucose which has been introduced into the body to be detected in three dimensional space. Certain tissues, such as cancer, absorb and create "bright spots" in the images that can alert doctors to problems. That's a pretty rudimentary explanation. For all I know, it really is magic – so what's so different between this and any of the things shown in those pictures?

One thing: it will change over time. The PET scan, amazing as it is, will be replaced by something even better. Science is not static. It evolves and gets more effective. "Ancient wisdom" modalities fail to do this. A ritual is created and sealed. There is one right way to do things, and that's the end of it. It's rather like religion.

Randi's last PET scan six months ago revealed no signs of the cancer that once plagued him, though the results aren't in for this particular scan. By the way, that cancer was treated with a modern herbal remedy known as "chemotherapy." Over the last thousand years or so, doctors have learned that certain plants have properties that can be useful for humans, and they've worked tirelessly to optimize them for a particular purpose. And one of those purposes is curing cancer, which chemotherapy does very effectively.

If you're a fan of ancient wisdom, enjoy. But I'll be looking forward to the new wisdom that research and science will bring us. And thanks to Travis Roy of Granite State Skeptics for showing me the gallery.

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written by paiute, August 11, 2010
It is Positron Emission Tomography. You are seeing the image produced from a matter-antimatter mutual destruction, and that is pretty cool. Much cooler than any woo out there. The body is not bombarded with gamma rays. The radiation comes out from the body and is captured by photomultiplying scintillation detectors. This signal is reconstructed by software into the image.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron_emission_tomography
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written by JeffWagg, August 11, 2010
Thanks, I fixed that.
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written by kedo1981, August 11, 2010
Is it just me or does the girl getting the exorsism look kind of hot
How do I use woo to get "wemons" to get naked and alow me to drape useles things on them
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written by Phatchick96, August 11, 2010
Geez, some of those treatments looked creepy! I think I'll stick to good old fashioned modern medicine, less likely to make me gag.
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That picture is hilarious
written by Xiphos, August 11, 2010
1. Nice to here the good news about Mr. Randi's illness.
2. Kedo1981 is correct and I would say the lady getting the snake "treatment" and dolphing girl aren't too shabby either.
3. Dave Mabius is STILL of his meds. It's sort of comforting in a way knowing that he will never ever be sane.
4. Randomly sampling reading some of the replies on the Alt-med article made me sad. some many ignorant scared profoundly shallow people believe in dangerous nonsense.
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written by Willy K, August 11, 2010
PET scanners and the A-bomb.
Two of the definitive reasons I cite to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt to Young-Earth Creationists that the Universe is billions of years old, not 6000!

The same scientific work that led to both of the above mentioned inventions is the basis for the radioactive dating of the age of Earth and the Solar System.

Ask a YEC if PET scanners and A-Bombs work, if they say no, they're beyond reason and should be avoided! If they say yes, they will probably storm off, mad at you for making them look foolish! smilies/tongue.gif
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I should not type on my lap top while in a rush
written by Xiphos, August 11, 2010
It turns out like that post above with numerous spelling errors and poor grammar. I apologize.
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written by MadScientist, August 12, 2010
Just adding to what pauite wrote - with PET you get injected with the chemical which will decay to produce positrons and it is the positron-electron annihilation which produces the gamma rays which are then detected. Any such imaging is helped along by any other chemicals which may encourage more specific accumulation in the area or tissue type of interest. For example, in an unrelated diagnostic technique, certain thyroid problems are diagnosed using radioactive iodine because iodine gets caught up in the thyroid gland. The wiki article linked to does mention a few chemicals used.

The modern software for viewing the tomography data is pretty cool; you can slice up the patient as you please. The image quality has really improved in the past 40 years as well.

Now as for the dolphin woo-woo - I would advise any pregnant woman to stay away from the dolphin treatment. I have no idea of the power output of a dolphin's squeak, but I imagine it must be pretty high to be heard from great distances under the water and exposing a fetus to that sort of thing is taking an unknown risk. I can say with absolute certainty that a submarine's sonar would do some serious damage (though I have no doubt that it is also much more powerful than a dolphin squeak).
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written by Explosive Bunny, August 12, 2010
"Ancient wisdom" persists even today. Often it does no harm; sometimes it's deadly. What it isn't is progressive – no one is learning how to "perfect" these techniques or make them better
Hey, we have electro-acupuncture these days.
Oh, wait, you said better, never mind.

I understand that Positron Emission Tomography bombards the body with gamma rays, and this allows radioactive glucose which has been introduced into the body to be detected in three dimensional space.
I'm not sure what you fixed in response to paiute, but at the moment, what is there is still wrong.
I suppose technically, what happens is that the body bombards the PET scanner with gamma rays smilies/wink.gif (But only if you count the tracer that was injected as part of the body.)
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What the heck?
written by charlieocean, August 12, 2010
Ya know, I try to live my day to day life in a normal fashion...go to work, buy some groceries, maybe go swimming, have a glass of wine, enjoy a movie, snuggle with a beautiful woman and then I read stuff like Warsofath3 sends and I realize how "off-the-beaten-path" some folks can get.

Sometimes you just can't win and you feel like you're wasting your time on every nutball conspiracy, Nazi, alien-believing, water-dowsing, lead-to-gold moron on the planet.

Sheesh!
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written by Able, August 12, 2010
I truly thank Randi for sharing his condition with us over the last year or so. Showing his progress to my mother in-law convinced her to not go the the PI to get her cancer "removed".
On the lighter side, because I dont have to leave the states, I am going to try the tree frogs eating therapy in an attempt to quit smoking and get rid of my cough. I will keep you posted.
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Eat Right and Exorcise Daily :)
written by gfpatterson, August 14, 2010
from Reuters Oddly Enough -- great treatment of Fernando Nogueira :

How does he know she has spirits?

If you look carefully, you’ll see she’s wearing black underpants. That’s a sure sign of evil spirits.

http://blogs.reuters.com/oddly-enough/2008/12/22/eat-right-and-exorcize-daily/
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written by SeavyCarr, August 16, 2010
My young son suffers from asthma, eczema and psoriasis. So all I need to do to cure him is dunk him in mud, bury him in sand, shove sticks up his nose, force a bowl of doctor fish over his head and then make him eat them live...

Can I claim this treatment on the health insurance or would I get arrested?

PS Best wishes and much love to Mr Randi, and a big thanks to his medical team.
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Yet another one...
written by Caller X, August 16, 2010
...from Jeff. As of this writing, the part about bombarding the body with gamma rays remains unedited. Tell us, though, which chemotherapy drugs are derived from plants?

By the way, that cancer was treated with a modern herbal remedy known as "chemotherapy." Over the last thousand years or so, doctors have learned that certain plants have properties that can be useful for humans, and they've worked tirelessly to optimize them for a particular purpose. And one of those purposes is curing cancer, which chemotherapy does very effectively.


Yes, very effectively, except when it doesn't work. Check with Pat Swayze and Denny Hopper.
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written by JeffWagg, August 16, 2010
How about this one? http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/...le0700.htm
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forget the high pitched squeaks...
written by lennyhipp, August 16, 2010
Penn & Teller had a Bullsh!t episode dealing with dolphin thereapy and dolphin assisted births. a marine biologist said wild dolphins have been known to attack humans if felt threatened.
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