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Of Licorice And Skepticism PDF Print E-mail
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Written by Steve Cuno   
Friday, 14 January 2011 00:11

Those of us who are eager to introduce friends to critical thinking could learn a thing or two from black licorice.

Licorice is a confection that some people like and sane people detest. As a charter member of the detest group, I can assure you that not even the most skilled licorice monger with the smoothest, most convincing sales pitch in the history of humankind, beast-kind and quite possibly plant-kind could get me to relent.

My reaction to licorice is not altogether unlike the reaction of many people to skepticism.

I won’t insult your intelligence with an argument from analogy. I concede substantial differences between skepticism and licorice. Not least is that skepticism is, by definition, a wholly rational approach, whereas any line of thought that ends by endorsing licorice for human consumption manifests irrationality at its finest. But perhaps you’ll indulge me while I illustrate from analogy. If we can find a way for a skilled licorice monger to crack a nut like me, perhaps we’ll happen upon an insight or two for sharing skepticism with people who would otherwise dig in their heels at its very mention.

When it comes to selling licorice to the likes of me, here are two possible approaches, both straight from Marketing 101:

Approach 1 -- When zigging fails, try zagging. No morsel of black licorice with the ill fortune to set foot in my mouth ever had the honor of being swallowed. It ended up on the ground or in the trash. From this we might conclude that any talk of my giving licorice one more taste in hopes that this time I’ll like it -- a typical zig -- will surely fail.

Yet this is not to say that there are not viable zags at your disposal. If you can prove to me that my clients like the loathsome stuff, I may hold them in lower esteem but keep licorice on-hand to offer them. I might also buy a considerable supply were you to show me how to use it in a “lumpy” direct mail program. (Not so far-fetched. I’m considering it as we speak.)

In neither zag would you be trying to force the unpalatable down my throat or pulling any sort of subterfuge. Rather, you would be taking the time to learn what matters to me (warning: requires listening and empathy), and then look for ways that licorice might answer the call. Clever, and not in some sneaky, underhanded, zero-sum way. Rather, it is clever in an insightful, above-board, non-zero-sum way.

Now, suppose you’re doing your best to present the virtues of skepticism to someone whose ears slam shut at the mention of “critical thinking.” A little listening might reveal an opportunity for an above-board, non-zero-sum zag. Perhaps you can offer freedom from guilt to a parent fretting over not piping Mozart into the nursery. (Doubly important, since all rational people prefer Rachmaninoff.) You might offer financial relief to someone shelling out for worthless herbal concoctions. Or reassure someone who fears that Mormon Tabernacle Choir recordings contain subliminal polygamy messages. Each of these promotes critical thinking -- without, if you wish, so much as uttering the term -- in a way that is relevant, helpful and suited to the individual.

Approach 2 -- Move on to someone else. Suppose that my distaste for licorice runs so deep that, client preferences and lumpy mail notwithstanding, your chances of winning me over are about as good as getting Randi to hand Uri Geller the million bucks with a note of apology.

Keep after me if you wish. But the wiser, more productive course may be to (a) politely back off, remain my friend and leave me favorably inclined toward someday hearing you out on some other topic; and (b) use the time and effort you’d have spent futilely badgering me to find and make your case to the more licorice-receptive.

I admit to a bit of dichotomizing. Receptiveness rarely falls on either side of a line, but along a continuum, and knowing when to cut bait is a judgment call, not a science. For all you know, under my resolute exterior lurks someone on the brink of licorice acceptance. You are within your rights to play those odds. But the nearer you find yourself to the end of the continuum marked “Ain’t Never Gonna Happen,” the more you might consider the eminently pragmatic solution of plying skepticism elsewhere. Unless, of course, you enjoy frustrating and being frustrated. Some people, I suspect, do.

Let me be clear about what I am not saying. I am not presuming to dictate whom you should regale nor how you should go about regaling. This is an article about what tends to work from a marketing perspective. What you do or don’t do is wholly up to you.

Nor am I am urging a de facto abandonment of efforts to unstop tightly-packed ears. Confronting unsympathetic audiences can be needful and, when handled skillfully, yield positive results. This is occasionally true in a one-on-one setting (the focus of this article), and very often true at the public forum level, as the success of the JREF attests.

Having been clear about what I’m not saying, let me now be equally clear about what I am saying.

Namely, that Kent was a bloody fool.

Kent was a never-give-up door-to-door salesman. If you were hapless enough to invite him in, there was no getting rid of him until he had delivered every syllable of his never-varied monolog and shown you every page of his catalog. He once bragged about finishing his spiel undeterred even though his elderly “prospect,” unable to get him to leave, had removed her hearing aids, sunk back in her recliner, and clenched her eyes shut.

Kent expected to be admired for his perseverance. I’m afraid the honor of admiring him was his alone. While Kent racked up self-satisfying tales of “laying it on the line,” his fellow salespeople -- who took the trouble to detect needs and avoided wheel-spinning -- racked up sales.

Steve Cuno (who, you may have gathered, doesn’t particularly care for licorice) is a three-time TAM speaker, founder of the RESPONSE Agency in Salt Lake City and the author of the book "Prove It Before You Promote It: How to Take the Guesswork Out of Marketing". Contact him at steve@responseagency.com.

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Unfortunate symmetry
written by Bruno, January 13, 2011
The problem I see with this approach is that the first line relies on the same cultural relativism (aka fairness or balance) that has made the US public so vulnerable to alternative realities, and the second is also no different from the pragmatic like that vendors of religion take as well. In other words, the proposed attitude does not break the symmetry between rationality and woo-woo that exists in the minds of the people you're hoping to win over.
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Approach 3
written by jimgerrish, January 13, 2011
Approach 3 - Give up immediately. "Believers," those unfortunate non-critical thinkers called "woo-woos" by some on this forum, feel compelled to increase their herd in order to justify their own weak positions of belief (about which they probably have secret and unspeakable doubts). A non-believer who is strong in his non-belief shouldn't give a damn about winning converts or increasing the herd of skeptics. If you're not a skeptic and want to believe every woo-woo idea that comes along, that's your problem, not mine. Good day.
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I'm thinkin'...no.
written by zhombu, January 14, 2011
As noted in the first response to this and undoubtedly more to come, a flip of sentiment here gives one the argument peddled by Believers. Keep in mind that many of these folk who aren't believers because they were threatened with eternal damnation came to their worldview through human need. You, me, and the vast majority of others who cotton to the JREF will never be convinced otherwise from our staunch and, yeppers, correct views. But many who do not maintain our vigilance for rationality succumb to religion, woo, and spirituality to comfort them for what the lack. I, too, am no fan of anise-flavored licorice, but two weeks marooned on a desert island with nothing but licorice and strawberry Yoo-Hoo (VILE!)for sustenance, might change our acceptance, though personally I'd catch fish with the licorice and kill them with the Yoo-Hoo.

I think what changes most who believe into rational, unindoctrinated, thinking people is their reliance religion and woo is the subsequent lack of payoff when the same is called upon for salvation. No amount of grandstanding or rational explanation will get you to like licorice, until you need it and decide for yourself.

You can have my share.
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written by TDjazz, January 14, 2011
Luckily, I'm as skeptical as much as I LOVE licorice, and it doesn't matter whether others accept or decline either. (More licorice for me!)
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Who is Kent?
written by sindre, January 14, 2011
Who is this Kent character? I couldn't understand the reference. Any hints would be recieved with utmost gratitude.
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A Skeptic who Loves Anise
written by WendyH, January 14, 2011
Nice story, and nice challenge. When I was young I had a room mate who is Italian, and she introduced me to anisette coffee. I already loved coffee, sweet with milk in it, and I knew that some people liked to add a little liqueur to it to make it fancier for dessert. So -- she poured some anisette into it, and, o my! I wasn't crazy about licorice, but anisette coffee is the bomb! I think there may be an analog for skepticism... that a person who may not think they are skeptical about anything can be shown to have some skepticism already in his or her life, or that a little skepticism can improve his or her life, such as the anisette improved my coffee, and I was already skeptical about some superstitions, the rest is a pretty natural progression. I had already given up belief in God, astrology and a whole bunch of mainstream superstitions before I ever heard there was a skepticism "movement," CFI, JREF, or IIG. smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by lytrigian, January 14, 2011
Who is this Kent character? I couldn't understand the reference. Any hints would be recieved with utmost gratitude.


I'm just guessing here, but I surmise from the article that:

Kent was a never-give-up door-to-door salesman. If you were hapless enough to invite him in, there was no getting rid of him until he had delivered every syllable of his never-varied monolog and shown you every page of his catalog. He once bragged about finishing his spiel undeterred even though his elderly “prospect,” unable to get him to leave, had removed her hearing aids, sunk back in her recliner, and clenched her eyes shut.
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Licorice Lovers of the World Unite!
written by Holmstrom, January 14, 2011
Stop the Madness!
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Yet another approach
written by GrahamZ, January 15, 2011
It may be more productive to go after people when they are young and receptive, to educate them so that they don't become the type of person who is so set in their ways that they won't abide licorice. Give out free licorice in the schools, promote licorice on television and the internet on programs and sites that are likely to be visited by young folk, and so on. Oh, and do the same for skepticism, of course.

Also, those who take advantage of our licorice-hating brethren by promoting anti-licorice falsehoods and lies, ought to be publicly discredited in a way that makes anyone who would listen to those lies feel shame. Long Live Licorice Lovers!
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written by Willy K, January 15, 2011
Beware children of the World!

Licorice is a gateway substance to more dangerous thing you can put in your mouth...
Such as Vegemite! smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Donovan from New England, January 17, 2011
Approach number three is an awful position. If skeptics weren't reaching out to the community, how many more people would fall for homeopathy? How many more people would be in line for faith healers? While I am certain you became a skeptic with no outside influence, no skeptic sharing the joy, but the rest of us are human and are stuck with our paleolithic, credulous brains.

Critical thinking is not an innate behavior for people, as evidenced by the ten-thousand years or more that the argument has really and truly been between evidence and experiment on one end and what really old books say on the other. People feel that ancient medical remedies are better than modern, scientifically proven ones. All people would fall for this if it weren't for the insistence of skeptics promoting critical thinking, the very heresy Galileo was condemned for and which today's pope finds the man still guilty of.

Most people are not willfully ignorant, rather skeptics are willfully skeptical. It takes an effort on our part for a reason.

So to leave people drowning in such a poverty of knowledge is not an option when we are surrounded by rafts, life rings, and ropes with which to attempt a rescue. Not only do we leave those people to their fate, we allow their fate to dictate ours. Behold! I give you the Tea Party. I give you mega-churches influencing our politics. I give you oil companies winning deregulation. I give you climate change deniers. I give you England's national health care using tax money to provide homeopathic and other alternative medicines. Even if you care nothing for other people, care nothing for the ignorant children they will raise (if the child survives the diseases vaccinations could have prevented), you should at least care that on such a small planet the stupid will get us all if we don't fight it.
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your findings
written by wysiwyg111, January 17, 2011
liking licorice, i find your lack of faith disturbing

/jk
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You don't like licorice?
written by Alencon, January 17, 2011
Obviously you've never tried a quality black licorice. Allow me to offer you the ultimate black licorice treat. Only $4.95 for a 1/4 ounce piece and conveniently packaged in boxes of 100.
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written by omatsu123, January 18, 2011
Thanks. I didn't even know the word licorice...
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written by Skeptic Doug, January 21, 2011
You can send Steve a box of Licorice at:

936 Granite Peak Drive Suite 1100
Sandy UT
84094
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Mindset
written by JK, February 12, 2011
I don't try to move people set in their ways to my view point, but deep down I hope that others will keep trying. I sometimes waiver when I listen to some well educated conservatives such as William Buckley,or George Wills put forth their ideas in a lofty manner,and I know I would be overwhelmed talking to them in person; but deep down I feel that I have the "correct thoughts". A reporter reportedly asked the person who developed the theory of Continental Drift, how it felt to know his peers had accepted his ideas. He said they never have accepted his ideas-a new group of scientists came along who accepted his ideas. Anyway I have some licorice to get at; and isn't "black licorice" redundant?


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