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Written by Steve Cuno   
Friday, 04 November 2011 09:00

It is easier to pan than to praise. When I write about how skeptics’ behavior reflects upon skepticism, I am more apt to resort to negative examples, where I can say, “let’s not do that,” than to positive ones, where I can say, “Folks, that is how it should be done.”

Not this time. Today I am here to showcase a positive example.

In my prior Randi.org post, I used a religious debate to illustrate the potential destructiveness of squabbling among skeptics. I admit to having dwelled long on the analogy. I know better. Not getting quickly to the point risks failing to communicate with readers who opt out early.

Such was the case with at least one reader, who posted a comment criticizing me for writing about “…whether we skeptics ought to join in debating whether Mormons are Christians.” Moments later, another commenter came to my defense with a “jab” about the first’s “reading comprehension.”

Alas, I thought, instead of discouraging silly squabbles, I catalyzed one. I am pleased to report, however, that my “alas” was premature.

Resisting any urge to jab back, the first commenter asked straight questions: “What point are you making about reading comprehension, and for what reason? Are you saying I’m mis-reading Cuno’s apology for biting our tongues about the status of Mormonism? How so?”

Rather than re-jab, the second commenter proffered an apology and a straight answer: “Pardon if my little jab was not more informative, it appears that you have not read the above post. The topic of this post is not about skeptics joining in the Mormon/Christian debate, nor is it an ‘apology for biting our tongues about the status of Mormonism.’ Rather, it is a pithy analogy which suggests that skeptics might not be well served as a community by behaving as the self righteous true believers do. A reread may change your perception of the intent of this post.”

Then a most remarkable thing happened. “Oops,” the first commenter replied. “Yes, I didn’t read the thing closely. Sorry.”

It is doubtful that this well-handled exchange will find its way onto the pages of USA Today. And that’s a shame. It was a rare and wonderful instance of handling a disagreement like grown-ups.

Folks, that is how it should be done.

 

Steve Cuno, a three-time TAM speaker, is founder of the RESPONSE Agency in Salt Lake City. You can read Steve’s blogs by clicking here.

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written by FledgelingSkeptic, November 04, 2011
I believe what Steve was saying is that the two people who exchanged comments in his previous post acted like civilized adults rather than stooping to name-calling or snark. His premise is that, rather than belittling someone who may not have understood or may have simply misread, the posters involved were polite to one another rather than just jumping to conclusions.

I also don't think that it was Steve's intention to imply that any one way is the best to handle all skeptical situations. You and I have had this debate ourselves on FS. He was simply offering praise for two people who handled themselves like adults.

I don't know if you remember what this place used to be like. It was bad. Pharyngula-shark-tank-type-bad and it took some time to get the ad hominem attacks and general personal insults under control. It's so much better now. People who were afraid to comment or participate before are now leaving comments. I think that was the point Steve was making.
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written by latsot, November 04, 2011
I'm sorry, I don't buy that explanation:

"Folks, that is how it should be done."

strikes me as a declaration of how things should be done. How else can I take that statement?

I simply don't agree that anyone gets to decide that there's a party line we should all agree to and one type of behaviour that's ideal.


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this is why I like comments on skeptic sites
written by redsky, November 04, 2011
Unfortunately, this kind of re-examination is still kind of rare on skeptic sites, but a whole lot more common than on other types of sites. I guess it's also much more common in the culture in general too - I love that you can challenge someone face to face and it doesn't end in hurt feelings and confusion.
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written by electricjohn, November 04, 2011
I cannot begin to tell you how much this whole exchange has brightened my general outlook. I have not read Steve's original article, but I will. I agree with the 'comments on skeptic sites' comment. Damn, civil discourse among intelligent adults . . .Go figure! Unfortunately far too rare.
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Are skeptics more "civil" than non-skeptics?
written by feldesq, November 05, 2011
This question is perhaps somewhat analogous to the question, “are atheists less violent people than religionists?” This question, far from intended as a simple “pat on the back” for skeptics (or atheists), may be of some importance to the skeptics movement. I think Steve’s anecdote suggests (and supports) this possibility on several levels.

Not having researched the question, I nonetheless (intuitively) conclude that persons who place reason and open-mindedness among their highest personal values (skeptics?) would and do exhibit both humility and self-correction among their basic personality traits.

Thank you Steve.
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