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Homeopathy Again Strikes Out In Style PDF Print E-mail
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Written by James Randi   

Recently, Dr. Mehmet Oz, the cardiologist who accepts “reiki” and “evening-out the human body’s energy aura,” announced his acceptance of homeopathy, possibly the most thoroughly tested quack medicine claim, ever; it has failed every double-blind, legitimate, scientific set of tests to which it has been subjected. In November 2002, I offered the JREF million-dollar prize to the UK homeopaths if their claims could pass an extensive test based upon the protocol designed by Dr. Jacques Benveniste [1935-2004] -- a major supporter of homeopathy -- supervised by the Royal Society, the Royal London Hospital, University College, London, and Guy's Hospital, and witnessed by the homeopaths themselves. The results were quite negative, but Dr. Oz has chosen to accept this weird idea, and endorsed it on his site. Comments immediately poured in on his website for his “Homeopathic Starter Kit”…

I took just the first 25 responses to examine. Two of them – falsely – asserted that the negative comments were being deleted, though for all I know, that might have been done, at first. Of the 25, there were nine that were in favor of Oz’s new woo-woo factor. Of those 9, five were from homeopathic “doctors” or from persons connected to “alternative” healing agencies, and two offered Dr. Oz “blessings.” There was one that I still haven’t figured out – #21, and the rest – 12 – ridiculed both the show and Dr. Oz.

Here they are, in order:

  1. All the negative comments are being deleted. I suppose that the relative dilution of the negative comments will only make them stronger?
  2. When a doctor tells you to take medicine with no active ingredients, it's okay to question the motives of that doctor. Just so you know.
  3. Homeopathy is at best quack medicine and at worst potentially life threatening if taken in place of genuine medical treatment. Dr. Oz should be ashamed of himself for promoting this and in my opinion should be struck off the medical register for ignoring the first rule: “First, do no harm “. Homeopathy causes a great deal of harm.
  4. See how your comment (and mine) gets deleted!
  5. Jelly Beans are more delicious, and you can have a good witch doctor enchant them at half the cost. A fractional solution of atoms in a water pill isn't medicine. Investigate "peer reviewed medicine" and save your money. One can only hope the FDA discredits you and your snake oil before more people suffer while you sell them magic healing.
  6. Seems the snake oil salesmen will never go away.
  7. Homeopathy = water. LOLOLOLOL!
  8. I knew Oz was a joke, but this is ridiculous. Homeopathy is one of the biggest jokes in history. LOL. Fools. Good for a laugh anyway.
  9. Dr OZ - stick to what you know. Don't peddle overpriced water. If homeopathy worked, we'd have to recognize we are all surviving on urine.
  10. Absurd! Sylvia Browne next?
  11. A timely and important show to inform the public about the value of homeopathy for healing the body, mind and spirit. Very thankful that Dr Oz supports this form of medicine for his family and his audience. We appreciate having expert guests on in this field and that people can take basic steps towards healing and learning about fundamental remedies in every day ailments. Blessings, Debby.
  12. Thirsty anyone? Homeopathy is known to cure thirst. Of course, why wouldn't it, if it's really nothing more than water?
  13. Dr Oz thank you for your program on Homeopathy. I as a homeopathic doctor really appreciate like many others your courage to air such a program. May be in future shows you can continue to bring in Homeopathic doctors from all over the world to share their experiences. Congratulations.  (from an “alternative school” in Calcutta)
  14. is there a book/site that tells whats best for who? they touched a bit about it on the show, i kno sum things work different for sum people...im really interested in transitioning
  15. No, I think what you'll have to do is take a medical degree. Homeopathy is a dangerous scam.
  16. Homeopathic remedies are just water with no active ingredients and no therapeutic value, unless you are thirsty.
  17. Wow, as usual, I learned so much. Thank you for having homeopaths on your show that were clear on what homeopathy actually is and practical ways to use it for myself and my family. I've been very interested in homeopathy and am excited to hear more successful remedies that it is used for, especially those ailments that traditional medicine doesn't have any answers for. I'll be ready for the next show.
  18. Think about that for a minute... if traditional medicine does not have an answer, could it be because the answer is complex, the illness little understood? Do you really believe that medical science has not looked at these "cures" and found them useless. Save your hard earned money. Don't buy into this pseudoscience just because it's promoted by a handful of people with degrees. Do some research, and you'll find many feel that homeopathy is no better than placebo, if that.
  19. Wonderful to see homeopathy presented here! Next shows might include using homeopathy for more chronic ailments where it also can offer benefit!
  20. Yes, I agree with Dr. Khan, thanks to Dr. Oz for the courage to do this show on homeopathy!
  21. If you have questions about homeopathy check this out! :)
  22. You're the man Dr. Oz, thank you for coming out, glad to know that there are a few good men around after all... God bless you.
  23. homeopathy is considered the first alternative healing after allopathy, by World Health Organisation (Davar’s College of Homeopathy, Mumbai, India And please note: “Allopathy” refers to all modern medical means other than homeopathy. Thus, this commenter is saying that orthodox medicine comes first in efficacy, followed by quackery!)
  24. Amazing show. Thank You for your support for homeopathy. It heals at the deepest level by catalyzing the innate healing responses our body has. (Holistic Health Practitioner)
  25. Thank you Doctor Oz for posting about homeopathy. It is a medicine that changed my life. I found out about it by accident, and I can say because of it, I am very healthy today. (posted by The Four Winds Society, a group of shamans preaching ancient Inca healing ideas)


Count on it, Dr. Oz will not be fazed in the least, and will continue to promote this nonsense from his TV pulpit…


James Randi is Founder of the James Randi Educational Foundation

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written by Mike Syxx, February 08, 2013
This is very disturbing that such a well trained man of medicine can endorse proven nonsense. Is it really all about the financial endorsements he is getting on the backside that he would endanger patients by telling them that placebos will cure their illnesses? Or, is Oz a true believer that his allegiance to alternative medicine has blinded him to facts?
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written by drwfishesman, February 08, 2013
On the Skeptical Inquirer facebook site, there was an ongoing discussion by those that initially tried to post on the Dr. Oz video and had their comments deleted. Some of them have screen shots of their comments that were later deleted. It seeems as the flood of anti-homeopathy comments started coming in, the deletions ceased.
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Screen shots?
written by djgrothe, February 08, 2013
Thanks for that info, drwfishesman. We checked the SI Facebook page and didn't see any screenshots, but if you have access to any or could help round them up, I know Randi would love to see them. Please email them to me at jref [at] randi.org. Cheers!
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written by mzmijewski, February 08, 2013
Dr. Oz is another Oprah success story. Spread ,make a lot of money,and who cares if you do harm or not. A truely american dream story come true. Can't wait to see what she comes up with next.
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written by RobertoDebunker, February 08, 2013
There is no way that Dr. Oz is unaware of exactly what he is doing. He is selling out medicine and his reputation to make quick bucks from promoting quackery. He is a scoundrel and a quack.
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written by MrIncredible, February 08, 2013
A large segment of the population is deeply trusting of anything they see on TV, perhaps because there is a subconscious belief that no one would have the cojones to nationally broadcast stone cold lies. Add to that the similar blind trust in those who have “PhD” after their names, and you’ve got a recipe for lemmings. (I work in an organization where there are many doctorates and I can say confidently that they are not always the brightest bulbs, especially outside of their specific disciplines. But I digress.)

So, let’s do the math: Doctor + TV show + Endorsed by Oprah = Nothing is too stupid to believe. If he said the cure for headaches is decapitation we’d hear skulls dropping all over the country. Sad, sad, sad.
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Reminds me of the Dire Straits song "Money for nothing".
written by Joni, February 09, 2013
One thing to keep in mind is that dr Oz may not be getting kickback from homeopaths or their products... It's a lot more likely that his producers told him to keep the show interesting or he would be canceled.

At any rate he is still selling out for easy money.

"Money for nothing and chicks for free".... Humm, homeopathic chicken soup.bb smilies/grin.gif

Joni
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written by skyhand, February 09, 2013
I thought that I wrote something in not very long after the show. I checked in yesterday and didn't find it there. The way I do things sometimes it could be I didn't post as I thought. So,yesterday I posted a short paragraph and then checked the site. This time I checked back and it was there with the note that it was posted 2 minutes before. Today it is gone. Looks like only a few negatives are excepted.
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Sounds like Oz i s confused...
written by Stanfr, February 10, 2013
From his website, answering the question "how effective is Homeopathy?"

Most medical professionals regard homeopathy with a great deal of skepticism. No scientific explanation for many of the available treatments has been widely accepted by the medical community. A 2005 review of different medical studies on homeopathy suggests that there is weak evidence to support a specific effect of homeopathic remedies. This study suggested that the reported positive effects from homoeopathy most likely come from a perceived placebo effect. Other reviews done in 2000 and 2012 found similar results.

Furthermore, to complicate matters, very little research has been done on specific homeopathic treatments. While there are multiple studies on homeopathic medicine in general and on its effects on specific diseases -- like the flu or menopause -- there are still very few studies on the specific plant extracts or minerals that comprise homeopathic medications. (......)

However, despite the abundance of controversy, there are multiple studies and review in support of homeopathy. One report conducted by the Swiss Health Technology Assessment concluded that there is “strong evidence that homeopathy, as a system of medicine, is efficacious."

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written by Petey, February 10, 2013
RobertDebunker said:

>He is a scoundrel and a quack

Couldn't have put it better myself. By the way James, I believe Mehmet Oz is a (cardiac) surgeon, rather than an internist (cardiologist).
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Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia
written by Susan Gerbic, February 10, 2013
Thank you for bringing more attention to Dr. Oz and homeopathy. We members of the Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia team take patrolling Wikipedia pages seriously. The English homeopathy page which gets over 150K views each month is finally in good order.

Readers will encounter in the first paragraph the following... "Scientific research has found homeopathic remedies ineffective and their postulated mechanisms of action implausible.The scientific community regards homeopathy as a sham;[6] the American Medical Association considers homeopathy to be quackery,and homeopathic remedies have been criticized as unethical."

Everything is well sourced and cited. The JREF has been mentioned on homeopathy and Dr. Oz's page (which receives 120K views a month). We also have the JREF mentioned on CVS pharmacy's page (with 20K views each month).

We know that our actions reach people who need the education, not just the skeptical choir. When people are ready to start challenging their beliefs, they are going to turn to the Internet, and therefore Wikipedia (usually the first link they receive on a search) we need to be ready for those looking for information. And my team is doing its best, but is stretched thin. We could really use more volunteers. We train and mentor. If interested please contact me on Facebook or visit my blog. http://guerrillaskepticismonwi...gspot.com/
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written by Liberal Atheist Skeptic, February 16, 2013
Since the Skeptical Inquirer FB request that we post on this, I can also attest to the fact that 2 of my posts made (under my real name) on Feb 6th were deleted. Just to address that it is not a false claim. smilies/wink.gif
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