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Glastonbury WiFi: Orgone is the Cure PDF Print E-mail
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Written by Jeff Wagg   

JREFer TheTurtleMoves informs us that some citizens in Glastonbury, England are complaining that the new experimental city-wide WiFi network is causing dizziness, nausea, and lack of creativity. I have to agree with the last part... there's certainly nothing "creative" about claiming that a relatively new technology is full of doom and gloom.

So what to do? Combat it with orgone of course. This Telegraph UK article has most of the story, but not all of it. (As a side – I wonder what protests went on when the telegraph was introduced.)

The article is full of woo-woo quotes from the protestors.

 

I thought Glastonbury was a rural town. I don't want my son exposed to risk 24 hours a day, including at his primary school which is within the wi-fi zone. I would be failing in my duty as a parent if I did.

I don't want my sons exposed to "risk" either, but if you're trying to protect them from WiFi signal, you've got an awfully big job ahead of you. First, establish that there IS risk.

Matt Todd, who campaigns against EMFs, said that residents had complained that chakras and ley lines are being disrupted. "They believe positive energy flows are being disturbed," he said.

Mr Todd has started building small generators which he believes can neutralise the allegedly-harmful radiation using the principles of orgone science. The pyramid-like machines use quartz crystals, selenite (a clear form of the mineral gypsum), semi-precious lapis lazuli stones, gold leaf and copper coil to absorb and recycle the supposedly-negative energy.

Chakras, again, have no evidence... if you can tell they're being disturbed, you can prove they exist. Ley lines... same thing. And look at all the pretty things this machine is made of! But consider what's being claimed... they generate orgone to "neutralise" the radiation. What does that mean? Imagine light, which is a form of radiation, being "neutralized" by something. Would that something be a device that sent out waves of dark?

Here's what the article is missing:

  • According to Wilhelm Reich, orgone is generated through orgasm, for which it's named.
  • If orgone can combat the evils of WiFi, it would be expected for orgone to prevent wireless communication at that frequency. Did your WiFi lose connection? See if the neighbors have their bedroom door locked.
  • If an individual complains of these negative effects from the WiFi network, they should be able to detect the presence of WiFi. All they'd need to do to test this would be to have someone randomly turn on the WiFi of their laptop and ask the person to detect when it was on.

  • WiFi operates at 2.4Ghz, the same frequency used by many cordless phones, some remote control devices, car alarms, and microwave ovens.
  • We are constantly bathed in EM from a multitude of sources, not least of which is the sun. Oh wait.. that's natural, so it can't possibly harm us. (Nor can arsenic, snake venom, or botulism, as they're natural too.)

  • "What about the children?" is a common pseudo-argument made by people who don't have the proper evidence to back up their claims.

This is just a guess here, but as the actual towers are mentioned in the article, I suspect this protest started as "gee, those towers are ugly" and then moved on to "isn't EM dangerous?" and progressed to "we have to protect the children!"

Given that any apartment building in the industrialized world has at least a dozen WiFi networks going at any one time, don't you think we should think about those children too?

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written by Willy K, January 09, 2009
What about the children?

Yes indeed... how can we as a society protect these innocent children from the waves of ignorance radiating from their parents?

Maybe if their parents hadn't had so many orgones these poor little wretches wouldn't have been born into such a dangerous world!smilies/tongue.gif
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I disagree, Willy!
written by Tristan Noel, January 09, 2009
I think if the parents were capable of a significant orgone, or perhaps several, at a decent interval of time, they might be doing something entertaining and good for themselves, as opposed to whining about every possible harmful object that is around. Especially the ones that aren't harmful.
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written by BillyJoe, January 09, 2009
Jeff, you made a couple of embarrassing grammatical errors:

"We are constantly bathed in EMF"
"isn't EMF dangerous?"

More embarrassingly, your woo-woo got it right:

"who campaigns against EMFs"

EDITED BY JEFFWAGG: Thanks. I meant to use EM (fixed now).
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written by Simon, January 10, 2009
I live not too far from Glastonbury. It is a very beautiful place, steeped in history, but also in pseudo-history, and with the Tor, the Grail associations, the so-called 'Glastonbury zodiac' and so on, woo-woo is the local industry! Indeed, this has been the case since the monks of the Abbey 'discovered' King Arthur's grave in the reign of king Edward, and is examplified by the 'Glastonbury thorn'.
In short, Glastonbury has been attracting and exploiting the guilible for centuries, so I am not surprised that some of the populace uncritically accept such notions.
Thing is, last time I was there, I couldn't find a damn wifi spot!
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written by Rogue Medic, January 10, 2009
Simon,

Just look for the doggone woo-fi fighters. They know where the signal is strong, because they just know, or something stupid. If the locals have not been reproducing maybe they need to outsource their idiocy and their reproduction.

Are they supposed to be proof of devolution?
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written by Trish, January 10, 2009
3 words: Free Tinfoil hats!
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written by BillyJoe, January 10, 2009
EDITED BY JEFFWAGG: Thanks. I meant to use EM (fixed now).

Okay, I'm confused, shouldn't it be EMR for Electro-Magnetic Radiation?
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written by Son of Rea, January 11, 2009
The could easily prove that it's all in people's heads. One day announce that they are going to double the power output and see if there are any ill effects.

Note the number of complaints received.

The next day announce they are halving the power output.

Note how people claim it's better.

Then announce that nothing was changed on either day.
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written by Rogue Medic, January 11, 2009
Son of Rea,

That is a good idea. You would want to have some reputable (reputable to the believers in this pseudoscience) people observing to make sure that the power is not being secretly manipulated. Remember, these people are the kind who believe all kinds of conspiracy theories, so you may not be able to reason with them.
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written by DrMatt, January 11, 2009
Wait. The way to neutralize a lack of creativity is...through orgasm.

I'm down with that.
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Not a correct test.
written by Diverted Chrome, January 12, 2009
"All they'd need to do to test this would be to have someone randomly turn on the WiFi of their laptop and ask the person to detect when it was on."

Laptops are wireless receivers, not wireless transmitters, so turning the laptop on/off doesn't interrupt the signal itself.

Wireless is just a radio broadcast. It's the same old radio argument but now that terrestrial radio is moving on, so are the woo claims.
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written by Diverted Chrome, January 12, 2009
(that's over-simplified, but you get what I mean as regards the network as a whole)
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written by Diverted Chrome, January 12, 2009
(that's over-simplified, but you get what I mean as regards the network as a whole)
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"orgone science" and laptops
written by SeanKehoe, January 12, 2009
Chrome, all 802.11 equipment has to function as both a transmitter and receiver. If they didn't, laptops would be unable to join 802.11 networks. As you said, it's just like a wireless broadcast. Your laptop is just behaving like a fancy pants walkie talkie, and that certainly requires two-way communication.

Besides, many laptops can function as a wireless router, since the chip in the card is pretty similar to what you'd find in a router. It just depends on having the software to emulate a physical wireless access point.

The handling of 'orgone science' is disappointing. No real explanation of how silly it is, and it's crazy to even describe it as being science.
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written by Diverted Chrome, January 14, 2009
Indeed. What I meant to point out was that if you turn off one laptop, the network as a whole doesn't go down. Therefore it wouldn't work as a test as Jeff describes (emphasis mine):
"If an individual complains of these negative effects from the WiFi network, they should be able to detect the presence of WiFi. All they'd need to do to test this would be to have someone randomly turn on the WiFi of their laptop and ask the person to detect when it was on."

The network would still be transmitting and the signal present whether the laptop is on or off.
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written by Mercifull, January 21, 2009
I live near there too and like Simon said you can't take most of the people in Glastonbury seriously anyway. I think Richard Dawkins paid a visit there during one of his recent Channel 4 documentaries.
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written by steve7777777, February 02, 2009
I am a resident of Glastonbury, there are always people here complaining about something and the new age population are a complete pain in the ass to put it mildly! I try to keep myself to myself and know a lot of "normal" people who also find the woo-woo in this town annoying. When I first moved here I met a few of the alternative brigade and some of the crap they believe was amusing, but soon I began to see a lot of exploitation based around those beliefs. I have met a number of people (one of which was terminally ill) who come here in desperation and are mercilessly ripped off by crystal healers, mediums and others who want to charge extortionate amounts to let you sit in a pyramid made from plastic tube purchased from B&Q whilst blowing root ginger up your ass! Was joking about the root ginger, but this town is becoming one big scam!!!!!
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