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Written by James Randi   
Reader Malcolm Dodd informs us that the UK Bus publicity campaign has now raised nearly $300,000, which has enabled them – at this point – to place their “There’s probably no God” signs on over 800 buses throughout the UK, and over 1,000 signs inside the London Underground trains. Stay tuned for more developments!
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written by harpman, February 06, 2009
Thor be praised ^^
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The UK gets it right (for a change)
written by Ian MacMillan, February 06, 2009
Some praise is due to the UK for not blocking the advertising campaign on the grounds of political correctness, as appears to have happened in Canada. The UK's Advertising Standards Authority insisted on the "probably" in "There's probably no God", but said that the campaign fell within its guidelines.
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written by hitherto, February 06, 2009
Unfortunately, as the Guardian reported yesterday, the Christians are now countering the "no God" ads with their own...

http://www.good.is/?p=15357

Most disheartening about this is the fact that their chosen wording ("There is definitely a God") has apparently been accepted by the same regulatory body that forced the Atheist campaign to say there "probably" isn't.

I'd say that, in the absence of concrete proof of God, the Christian slogan violates rules regarding truth in advertising - it'll be interesting to see whether anyone in the UK atheist camp is up for pursuing this line of inquiry...
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written by nelson650, February 06, 2009
Who cares either way, for Chrissake!
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written by BillyJoe, February 06, 2009
Nelson,

I don't know about you, but it upsets me to see religious nonsense promoted to the public through advertisements, and it's about time the sceptics got in on the act.

If the christian group is allowed to use:
"There is definitely a God"

The atheist organisation should submit:
"There is almost certainly no god"
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Don't Forget Australia....
written by BillyJoe, February 06, 2009
And just to remind everyone that Australia is in on the act as well. From the other thread on this topic:

The Australian Atheist Foundation originally submitted the following advertisement to be placed at the back of buses:

'Atheism - because there is no credible evidence'

This was then changed to:

"Celebrate reason. Sleep in on Sunday mornings."

Also, it was not a public authority that refused to carry the advertisements, but the largest outdoor advertising company in Australia, APN Outdoor. It is this company who is being taken to court for descrimination.

regards,
BillyJoe
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The ASA doesn't pre-screen adverts
written by baldywilson, February 07, 2009
I would just like to point out that the Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) does not clear adverts prior to publication, and is not strictly a regulatory body. Publishers must conform to it's guidelines, but it has no power to block an advert prior to publication. If a complaint is made after an advert is published, only then can it take action and demand that an advert be removed or amended.
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written by Lee, February 07, 2009
For me, the most worrying thing about this counter-campaign is the rapidity of it; the ease with which the vast resources can be tapped. The churches have funding orders of magnitude above the various atheist organisations. It is no stretch at all to consider Christianity as a behemoth-like multinational conglomerate... with tax exemption (to name just one of many advantages supported by law) to rub salt into the wounds.

This was never going to be easy, but that is no reason to give up hope.
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Succeeding...
written by RGJ, February 07, 2009
Well, I guess we all knew religious groups would counteract. Anyway, the whole point of this recent ‘atheist upheaval’ was to raise consciousness, and I think that lots of folks who see the new pro-god ads will surely remember the atheist one. And that will be a tremendously good thing. They may be faster while raising funds, but our ‘meme’ has been implanted nevertheless.
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written by Kuroyume, February 07, 2009
And that's the point! If we congregate together in huddled secrecy, we achieve nothing but self-reinforcement. We must speak up about the situation beyond ourselves or these others will continue to hold the popular view.

The seed of doubt is very powerful. Once a person starts questioning the tradition and authoritative dictions, one is at an advantage to uncover realities. This was my experience. In my case it was the church itself that prompted the questioning by being too restrictive. And what an opponent they have produced. smilies/smiley.gif
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written by BillyJoe, February 07, 2009
Likewise. I used to hate Sunday mornings. I don't actually sleep in on Sunday mornings now, I get up bright and early to enjoy my one day off.
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Skeptic bus?
written by julianrod, February 09, 2009
When will we see a skeptic bus sign? I'd like some "Psychics are charlatans", "Homeopathy just doesn't work, get on with your life", etc...
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written by BillyJoe, February 09, 2009
I would prefer:
"Psychics are self-deluded. Or charlatans"
"Homeopathy just cannot work. And it doesn't"
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written by Chris Long, February 16, 2009
Randi: Why do you exult so gleefully in anything that belittles, insults or otherwise disproves religion ?

If religion gives comfort to the old, sick and dying, so be it... Leave them alone.
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written by Kuroyume, February 16, 2009
Only if they would leave US (anyone that doesn't have the same religious beliefs or none for that matter) alone!

Religions also are intolerant, fundamentalist, and oft-times dangerous.

* Who flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon? Islamic fundamentalists. That's religion.
* Who justified slavery in the USA? Christians; using the Bible! That's relgion.
* Who went around inquisiting (id est: imprisoning, torturing, and executing people by the thousands) in the late Medieval/early Renaissance? Roman Catholic Church. That's religion.
* Who goes to funerals and shows derogatory signs and shouts derogatory things to people just because someone is homosexual? Fred Phelps. He's a church pastor and overall ass-hole. That's religion.

I could go on for days and weeks but mainly it will drill into your think, indoctrinated head the point being made.

Good day,
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