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Written by James Randi   

In this May '04 Swift, you'll find a rather comprehensive item about Carla Baron, who owes the cupidity - if not the stupidity - of the media, for her continued success. Renata Galvan, who was a victim of this reckless endorsement of psychic powers, has some interesting news on the actual facts about Baron's involvement in the investigation of the murder of her son Tim:

I am writing you concerning so called psychic Carla Baron. I think you guys were absolutely correct that she is all out for the publicity. My son's case was featured on "Haunting Evidence" as its second episode.

Carla claims she was going in blind on the case, and that was so far from the truth. She talked to me EVERY DAY for several months, pretending to be my friend and to help me. All the while she would direct me to bulletin boards to praise her efforts and defend her when skeptics would write about her.

She asked me to post a statement that I did not pay her for her initial reading, which was a lie. In fact, she had charged me TWICE on my debit card and claimed it was just an error. I should have known that was a sign that she wasn't for real. Although she gave me a refund, what if I hadn't checked? I'm sure she would have kept the extra money.

There were already articles about the case, and she wanted to wait two days for my "appointment" for the reading, and asked for a photo of the suspect.

I saw her blog on MySpace, and still giving her the benefit that she CARED about my son and was trying to help, I started to post. I couldn't because I was not listed as a "friend." I never mentioned my son's case. Then she wrote me back the following:

I am just super busy with my responsibilities, and need to tend to those. I do not really do these cases any longer and deserve a break. I have been doing these for many years, and now need to move on. It is that and only that. Nothing against you personally.

I don't want to keep rehashing this. Please. I have good thoughts towards you and your family. Let it be. I need to move on now. Understand this is about my need for space, privacy, and mental well-being.

Take care.  Carla.

She apparently had no use for us once she got all she could get by exploiting us. One thing I did was keep audio recordings of many conversations. She was so persistent that I should convince the police to work with her (which they never would) and should constantly post, contact media and praise her, that at times I would avoid her calls. My other son couldn't stand her constant calls and got rude with her several times. One writer named Steve Hankins changed his email and phone number because she kept trying to get him to write about Tim's case and her of course.

A lot of people saw right through her - even the private investigator I hired, she pretty much was a "bulldozer" when it came to getting her name out there. Once she even asked me to create an email from my webhost so she could post about herself on Court TV's site. I imagine that a lot of posts about her out there are actually written by Carla herself.

If you guys are doing an investigation about her I hope this helps. What she did to our family really hurts. She used the murder of my son for her own benefit. Thank God she isn't doing these cases anymore. I would not wish her on anyone trying to get through grief of the lost or missing loved one.

Thank you, Renata Galvan

For more data on Carla Baron, go to the Independent Investigations Group article. The ABC-TV program Primetime - no stickler for detail, as you may know, is taken to task for its usual casual treatment of facts, something you may recall from my experience with John of God.

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written by Razel, March 30, 2009
I amazes me how these scumbags can do such things and not get out in straight-jackets. To harm someone so badly should be illegal.
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written by derekcbart, March 30, 2009
Hi there.

The link to the IIG Carla Baron report is missing the last "L" in html, so the link is going to the 404 netherworld. Here is the complete link: http://www.iigwest.org/investi...eport.html

-Derek
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written by BillyJoe, March 31, 2009
The link works fine for me.
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written by latsot, March 31, 2009
Sincere thanks Renata, I hope you know how much this is appreciated.
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written by deavman, March 31, 2009
Some browser versions automatically fill in missing parts of links(like "html" or "wwww"), some don't....
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Heartfelt thanks
written by Michieux, March 31, 2009
Thanks Ms. Galvan -- I think it would have taken not inconsiderable courage to "spill the beans" on Baron. I wish there were more people like you out there, since there's no shortage of "psychic" scams. As of this writing, the number of verifiable "psychics" equals exactly zero.
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written by Skeptico, March 31, 2009
Not doing these cases any more? Yes she is.  For example, she’s been busy with the Madeleine McCann case . completely useless, but busy.
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written by Skeptico, March 31, 2009
html doesn't work. Here's the link: http://skeptico.blogs.com/skep...ccann.html
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written by derekcbart, March 31, 2009
Our website guy put a forwarding link so that the incorrect link will go to the correct link.

-Derek
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written by CasaRojo, March 31, 2009
It seems that someone named 'tru-ancy4me' is currently trying to discredit Renata at the Trutv, Haunting Evidence board. Go here---> http://boards.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=1843
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written by Desertphile, March 31, 2009
Carla Baron's behavior is evil enough to make me think there really is something called "demonic possession." Surely no healthy human being would do what she has done.
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She's Fake
written by TimsMom, March 31, 2009
I really don't keep up with the bulletin boards anymore and haven't in quite a time but I really don't care what the person is trying to say about me to discredit me. It is probably Carla with some made up name or some other dumb schlub that chose to be under her hand.

I won't even waste my time to go to TruTv's board because I know in my heart it is Carla or someone she put up to writing on that board.

People that woman IS evil and is fake to the bones - even down to her "profile" on myspace. If she has any friends they are used as her "tools" and tricks of her trade.
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written by ReligionOffendsME, March 31, 2009
I find it difficult to feel sympathy toward people who allow themselves to be taken advantage of in this way. PLEASE let me explain... Renata sounds like an inteligent woman so i believe she is capable of being reasonable. Well I could never be convinced that telling lies and giving false acclaim to a psychic(even if i believed that @%$*!$#) could in any way be helpful to myself or my family, its simply unreasonable.Secondly, we all know for certain that there are immoral out there. A person is expected to use at least a little discretion when dealing in matters involving people asking you for money, credit card card numbers, ss#, etc. etc. *BUT* I also believe that carla baron is an absolute waste of life(u can have the credit for that1, god). What she did should so obviously be against the law and Ms. Renata should so obviously have realized this scam much sooner.I DO feel great sympathy for Ms. Renata for the loss of her son and wish her only the best.This is only my opinion and if you disagree... why? I enjoy listening very much.
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@ ReligionOffendsME
written by BillyJoe, March 31, 2009
You don't go in all at once. You go in by degrees. A little bit doesn't seem worth the trouble to resist. Then a little more, and a little more till finally you start to take stock and re-evaluate. Seems to me this is what happened to Renata. She took stock and re-evaluated and has come to the correct decision to expose this fraud. I would do nought but encourage her.

BJ
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written by CasaRojo, April 01, 2009
"I know in my heart it is Carla or someone she put up to writing on that board. "

I think you're right as I can't imagine why anyone else would bother.
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written by TimsMom, April 01, 2009
written by ReligionOffendsME, March 31, 2009
I find it difficult to feel sympathy toward people who allow themselves to be taken advantage of in this way.


Yes, in normal circumstances I would have noticed, but, you have to realized my son had just died, then my mother. My judgement was clouded and I grasped onto the first thing that gave me comfort. One thing is you never get over a child dying, I still am not over that. However at that time I was totally distraught and had a mental breakdown that lasted several months. I had to be hospitalized due to that.

Under the circumstances I guess I followed my heart and not my mind.
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written by CasaRojo, April 01, 2009
"I find it difficult to feel sympathy toward people who allow themselves to be taken advantage of in this way."

I understand what you're saying but I think it borders on blaming the victim. Many of us, for whatever reason, are more susceptible to the woo at some point in our life. I think everyone deserves at least one lapse of judgment.... "fool me once..."
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Renata, BillyJoe, CasaRojo...
written by ReligionOffendsME, April 01, 2009
Wow I got crushed on that one... sorry for that. Let me respond, and sorry in advance for this, hoestly. -Renata, I have no children so I cannot begin to understand at all what you must have been going through. Please believe my sympathy and my best wishes are real and genuine, they are. I must seperate my feelings about what you went through from how deeply troubling it is to me that people are able to get wealthy with these simple, underhanded, and dishonest, schemes simply because so many people out there allow themselves to be so easily manipulated. More specificaly, in your case you addmitted to spreading knowingly false information to account for this "psychic" therefor enableing this "psychic" to get more people just like yourself. Thats how they get rich... "Honest" people tell lies to account for their psychic powers. I beleive that even in my most grievous moments I could never be convinced that an actual psychic needs me to tell lies in support of her/him... Further more what of the people who read your lies and believed them? Now had you lost an irreplaceable extreemly valuable family heirloom (IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO MINIMIZE YOUR LOSS... just trying to gain a different perspective) I believe that the popular opinion would be much different, maybe more people would feel as though you were equally responsible but their sympathy for you due to your loss is clouding their ability to give an honest assesment. If we hope to do away with these scam artists we must find a way to reduce the number of people who are willing to pay for it and who give it FALSE credibility... We must be able expect a minimum amount of common sense. Im also possitive that if you entered into any type of legal contract, that contract would clearly have stated that this is for entertainment purposes only, to protect the "psychic" from the lawsuit she "seen coming". In that reguards the law would say you got what you paid for. I am sorry for you and your family's loss. I wish you and your family all the best in the life ahead. ___--BillyJoe, If by encourage her you mean support the decisions she made concerning the psychic... I wont. But if you mean support her fight to seek retribution or accountability I will but not because I think she personally deserves it but because I want to see people who claim to be providing "paranormal" sevices in exchange for money be made to either provide actual proof of their claim or get an actual job, and stop screwing with people! But legaly thats a slippery slope, I understand this. Thank you for your response.___--CasaRojo, At first I read your comment and was like "BLAMING THE VICTIM" Wow... do you also consider the people who read Renats lies and believed them also victims? Is Renata the victim or culprit/accomplice in those cases? But then I read on... and realized that you feel alot the same as I do. You said everyone is entitled to at least one lapse in judgement. I agree, but that is not the point I took from Mr. Randis letter, I take it as Mr. Randi building a case against people who claim paranormal powers they cant prove in general, Ms. Baron specifically, and the media whores who promote her garbage. I dont believe its benificial to his case to seek sympathy for Renata. All the sympathy for Renata comes from the tragic loss of her child and not from her being taken advantage of by Ms. Baron, For in that situation she was more than an inocent victim, she was a willing participant. For that my sympathy goes to the people who read Renatas lies and become victims as well. These are simply the opinions of an open mind... if you disagree or not Id like to know, and why.
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written by TimsMom, April 01, 2009
TO ReligionOffendsME

The only thing that I knew to be a lie was that she didn't charge me. Everything else I posted I THOUGHT to be true. I didn't POST anywhere that information and although she asked me to tell certain persons this if the asked I never had to. I was never asked. I didn't just go around posting lies as you suggest. I beleived HER lies to me!
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written by CasaRojo, April 01, 2009
"-CasaRojo, At first I read your comment and was like "BLAMING THE VICTIM" Wow... do you also consider the people who read Renats lies and believed them also victims?"

I'm not sure which "lies" you refer to. Yes, if some believes a lie then they are the victim of that lie.

"Is Renata the victim or culprit/accomplice in those cases?"

I think she's the victim.

"For that my sympathy goes to the people who read Renatas lies and become victims as well."

I'm obviously missing something somewhere.

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Seems we're reading what's not there.
written by BillyJoe, April 01, 2009
I'm obviously missing something somewhere.

I think assumptions have been made about what Renata did and didn't do or say, but Renata has pretty well cleared this up in her last post so there's really not much left to say. Going by her accounts, it seems she's an innocent victim exposing her assailant as a heartless bitch.

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A Last Response...
written by ReligionOffendsME, April 02, 2009
Ms. Renata, I am terribly sorry for your families loss. And I believe you are a good person, a great person most likely! Good luck and thank you for hearing my unpopular opinion. I am sure that if we were to ever meet again (on a different topic) we will certainly agree. And to BJ and CR, thank you for some good points especially the last 1 CR... about having sympathy for the ones(u know) and i did have to think about that. I guess I really dont have sympathy for anyone(unless mentaly disable)who subscibes to this in contradiction to common sense(in my opinion)... Sounds harsh I know, its not the side of the road im usually on. Lets agree that Ms. Baron is a moral-less, lazy, heartless, waste of life who deserves to go to that hell place jesus was talking about in that one book.
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written by CasaRojo, April 03, 2009
"Lets agree that Ms. Baron is a moral-less, lazy, heartless, waste of life who deserves to go to that hell place jesus was talking about in that one book."

Ya never know, she may come around. I wouldn't recommend holding one's breath in hopes... but yes, she's currently a scumbag. Looks like Topher from the Paranormal Research Society may be dissenting: --From Believer to Skeptic
"I am no longer associating myself with PRS and am no longer running any of the PRS events. I do not want this to come out sounding hateful or resentful. PRS and its members are some of my best friends, and the most honest people I will probably ever know, which is why the decision to leave was a very long thought process. In the end, I realized that my goals and viewpoints were not what they once were. My leaving PRS involved a lot more than just PRS, it involved my life, my career, and my viewpoints on the paranormal community."--http://blogs.tophermichaelyoung.com/ "

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