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Penn says... go to TAM! PDF Print E-mail
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Written by Phil Plait   

Penn Jillette -- the louder, bigger 2/3 of Penn & Teller, friend of the JREF, and perennial TAM speaker -- has made a short video talking about the live preliminary testing of the Million Dollar Challenge we'll be holding at The Amaz!ng Meeting 7 in Vegas; the meeting is from July 9 - 12, with the live test being on Sunday the 12th.

 


Of course, we agree with Penn. TAM is great, Banachek is fantastic, and we're really looking forward not just to the MDC test but to once again seeing our old friends Penn & Teller. If you're still sitting on the fence about attending, take the plunge! I predict you'll be glad you did... and that's no paranormal claim.

 

 

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written by BillyJoe, May 20, 2009
We've been throttled for excessive dowmloads this month (hey, there are six keen interneters in the household) so I am unable to download the video smilies/sad.gif
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written by Skemono, May 20, 2009
But does Ida actually support “the evolution of early primates, and, ultimately, modern human beings,” as one news outlet reported?

Probably not, but that's a failure of overly-enthusiastic researchers and a media that is a complete failure at reporting science. If you'd like to read a more restrained view, try here: http://scienceblogs.com/laelap...ling_a.php

A fossil can never show evolution. Fossils are unchanging records of dead organisms.

A single fossil might not show evolution, no. But the thousands of fossils that we have collected do provide a great slideshow of species changing from one form to another--i.e., evolution.

Evolution is an alleged process of change in live organisms.

That's monumentally stupid. Single organisms don't evolve. Populations evolve as descendants slowly change from their parents. But a single, live organism does not evolve.

If evolution were true, there would be REAL transitional forms.

And lo and behold, that's just what we find!

Instead, the best “missing links” evolutionists can come up with are strikingly similar to organisms we see today, usually with the exception of minor, controversial, and inferred anatomical differences.

So they're the same except for all the differences? Yeah, whatever.

Some organisms have maintained a roughly similar appearance over time, it's true, but the changes in them are hardly minor or controversial to the experts in the field. Consider for instance the recent octopus fossil: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyn...aceous.php
To the layman like your or I, it might look "just like" a modern-day octopus. But to someone like PZ who knows their cephalopods, there are clear differences between an ancient octopus fossil and a modern octopus, demonstrating change over time--or in a word, evolution.

Nor is it true that all fossils look just like modern creatures with minor differences. There's for example the well-known Archaeopteryx, which resembles neither modern birds nor modern reptiles, having clear features that do not belong to either group. Yet creationists feel an irrational need to stuff it into either the "Dinosaur" or "Bird" category, like they do with every other fossil.

Evolutionists only open up about the lack of fossil missing links once a new one is found.

Bullshit. Any scientist when asked will admit that fossilization is a rare occurrence, and there are going to always be inevitable gaps in the fossil record, because we cannot have a fossil of every creature that ever lived. But the absence of every fossil does not negate the numerous fossils we have found which provide clear evidence of evolution.
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A Psychic Prediction
written by Willy K, May 20, 2009
Mr. Penn Jillette, on or about the week of July 9-12 will roll his eyes and say "Oh... this is crap."

The self proclaimed psychic will wet herself because of all the attention she will get. She will not notice Mr. Jillette scoffing up his lunch. smilies/wink.gif

@truth64
Your arguments against evolution wouldn't even convince Ben Stein. smilies/tongue.gif
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written by Starthinker, May 21, 2009
I just wanted to protest the embedding of a video that starts with just a mouseover and then there is no way to shut it off. It took me a minute to figure out how it started in the first place, then just made me want to skip this article and the Swift in general until it falls off the first page. I don't see how this can be productive or desirable.
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