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Written by Blake Smith   
Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:00

What's the value of skepticism? That's an easy question. There may be a lot of valid answers, but skepticism helps us discern truth from fiction. That can be the truth of which health-claims to trust, whether to be afraid of aliens violating us in the night, or whether to play that street card game. But what is the value of Skepticism? The movement, the self-identification, the world-view, the community?

I've met so many people who tell me a similar "origin story." It's a variant on this theme:

I used to believe in [mystery-X] and I read all about it and watched television shows about it. When a conference was near me I would go. But over time I began to realize that the claims of [mystery-X] were vague, and that there wasn't any hard evidence. And I began to doubt [mystery-X] and eventually I concluded that there was nothing there. And then I thought, hey - what about [mystery-Y]? - and again and again they failed to show me the evidence. Then one day I heard about Skepticism through a podcast and realized that these Skeptics were just like me.

That story is my story too. But before I found out about "capital-S" Skepticism, I had spent ten years doing my own investigations and research. Just for me. Just to answer that pressing question, "Is that real?" So when I found out there was a vibrant web community of Skeptics I got quite excited. I never felt welcome on most of the UFO, Ghost, Psychic and Cryptozoology sites I visited - and mostly was a reader, not a joiner.

But we're social animals. And most of us crave the society of others. (Always there are exceptions, of course.) And the JREF's boards have been a place where for many years self-identifying Believers and Skeptics can come and discuss various phenomena and ideas. One of my favorite mystery-topics is cryptozoology - the study of mystery animals. Of course as a "science" it has a huge frikken problem: How can you study an animal that isn't known to exist?  That almost immediately morphs the whole field into a study of anecdotes - which is a folklorist's realm, not a biologist's.

Still, the tools of skepticism don't always enable us to disprove something.  And cryptozoology fans are always looking for the next piece of evidence: photos, hairs, footprints, slime-trails, exsanguinated corpses, etc...  And many cryptozoology fans are as sick of being hoaxed as the self-identifying Skeptics are. And many of them are as rabid about deconstructing evidence as Skeptics are. Not all of them are, but many.

This kind of examination, even from believers, led me to realize that analysis of cryptozoology is an excellent gateway into critical thinking and Skepticism.  So, to that end, I got with Ben Radford and Dr. Karen Stollznow and started the podcast "MonsterTalk." On our show we examine particular claims and use monster stories as a gateway to science and skepticism. Most people won't self-identify as a Believer or a Skeptic. Their views are a spectrum and on some things they're credulous, and others they're skeptical.  But for me, the value of Skepticism is that it helps diminish fear and vanquish ignorance through the tool that we humans use best: communication.

Communication and community - these words have a lot in common.

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written by Willy K, September 20, 2009
What about the monsters of the ID?

They're real, aren't they? smilies/wink.gif
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written by lagnar, September 20, 2009
only on the Forbidden Planet smilies/wink.gif
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Skepticism...
written by Michieux, September 20, 2009
To me, being skeptical means attempting to no longer fool myself; to try to see truth no matter how horrible/beautiful it may be, and by so doing, to no longer knowingly fool others. This has far wider ramifications than just being able to see through the shenanigans of mediums and the like, but includes the desire to understand and know the wellsprings of what motivates not only me, but every person around me. Fundamentally, it involves giving others the benefit of a doubt, no matter how much I might want to do otherwise.
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written by Skeptigirl, September 20, 2009
Your web site looks great. I love the intro: "Science turns on the lights and looks under the bed and in the closet."
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written by Otara, September 20, 2009
My interest cam gradually but probably the thing that increased it most recently in the last decade or o was urban legends and email. It was fascinating to see how quickly things became 'truth' because it was done electronically.


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written by icepick, September 21, 2009
Right there with you. I couldn't get enough of von Däniken when I
was a kid. I also, was fascinated by science. Eventually, science
and reason pushed the nonsense away.

Finding a community of interest in the online world (Yes, through
podcasts) was a huge bonus. I could refine my intellectual tools,
learn more and more, plus make friends along the way.

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Sadly :(
written by Turveyd, September 21, 2009

We Skeptics are fighting a losing battle, we are none Politically Correct these days which involves letting people believe in what the hell they like so other none believers stick up for the madness.

People are getting dumber / more desperate (choose 1) and turning to reiki and other alternatives and no amount of logic / science can change there mind, darn placebo effect and the want to believe.

Science is to confusing and hasn't got the answer to everything ( there term there )

Schools are brain washing our children age 5 and up it's god's all real more so than ever before.



Sad Sad Sad times smilies/sad.gif

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written by Herc, September 21, 2009
James Randi, Phil Plait and Jeff Wagg ALL REFUSE TO COMMENT on this psychic demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1TrfJo_UFI

Why are they afraid? Why are they running away?


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Why are they running away?
written by feldesq, September 21, 2009
Why? It's the spooky wallpaper....
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written by NoisyAstronomer, September 22, 2009
Thanks for the article, Blake! To be honest, I was hesitant about trying out the podcast at first. Monsters aren't my "thing" so much. But then I remembered that once upon a time it was something I was very interested in, reading all kinds of credulous websites while watching "Sightings" on the SciFi channel. The more familiar I became with science, the more I lost interest in these things but I never looked into them in detail. And so I started listening to the podcast and I really enjoy it for answering a lot of the questions that I still have about cryptozoology!

So, will UFOs ever make it on MonsterTalk? Are aliens monster-y enough? :-)
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why they run away
written by cdion321, September 22, 2009
@Herc: that video is evidence of mental illness, not psychic powers. Sorry if that's you.
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Thanks for all the feedback!
written by doctoratlantis, September 22, 2009
Coming off of Dragon*Con it's been really hectic so we started doing a mini-cast (MonsterNews) while we get our guests schedules lined up for the next long show. (And doing these little shows is fun in its own right.)

@NoisyAstronomer - Yes, there are two ET "monster" topics I'd be especially interested in covering on upcoming MT episodes - if I can find the right guests: Abductions and Cattle Mutilations. Now the back-stories on these two phenomena are have both mundane and ET explanations, but I'd like to get a guest on who is an expert in Taphonomy to discuss exactly what REALLY happens to animals when they die. This is also pertinent to the Chupacabra. And what is more monstrous than being abducted by aliens and probed, prodded and violated? Not much, I'd imagine. Or at least that's what I hear. I want the "monster" title to be a big umbrella to let us cover a lot of topics in a depth that is rarely even scratched at on regular media outlets.

Thanks for giving the show a listen!
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written by get out of debt, September 23, 2009
I think everybody is skeptic of everyhing that challenges their comfort zone



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