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Written by Jeff Wagg   
Thursday, 19 November 2009 18:10

bridgefog.jpgScientific skepticism is the simple process by which provisional conclusions are reached through a systematic examination of evidence. The tools of science fill our workbench while emotions and spirituality are left still wrapped in cellophane under the table -- pretty, and seemingly pretty useless. As such, it would seem that the humanities would have little to offer the skeptical community. What can poetry tell us of Occam's razor? How can a song express the quadratic equation?

As I write this, I'm listening to "Glorious Dawn" by ColorPulse, also know as John Boswell. This viral piece features Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking "singing" about the wonder of science. I find the sound mesmerizing and listen to it often; your mileage may vary. But it illustrates an important point that I think the skeptical community misses at times. Music, art and poetry can and should inform our skepticism.

When I first heard this piece (I originally typo'd that as "peace"), it made me think about Sagan and Hawking and what it was about these two individuals that made them stand out. What I came up with is this: They are interpreters. They have the training and intellect necessary to understand and cogitate the sometimes abstruse language of science, and convert it to accessible and often beautiful prose. This is how we can experience such things as human beings.

Sadly, in many universities, the specter of post modernism has turned many of our burgeoning writers into relativistic white bread, unwilling to explore a concept or state an opinion without offending someone. They've been told that "science is a failed paradigm" and that we each have our own individual realities. On the other side of the quad, fledgling scientists are steered away from the slushiness of poetry and creative writing, in favor of stiff, obfuscatory language that the mere mortal can't understand. The gap is widening, and the average man's ability to appreciate science is falling into the void.

But there is hope. While I don't believe we have another Sagan or Twain with us today, we do have a number of writers who can act as a bridge between these two worlds. Dawkins, Tyson, and Plait come to mind. But we need more bridges. We need so many bridges that the void below is constantly shadowed by those crossing between the two sides.

It's up to us to do our part. We, the skeptical community, are in a unique position to welcome the humanities into our fold. In fact, they're already here, though some of them are afraid to reveal themselves. Philosophers, actors and novelists have much to teach us about the world around us, and what we're all searching for. Truth, I mean. Let's welcome them.

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written by jcwept, November 19, 2009
Is anyone else really turned off by that big VISA card banner? I know times is hard, but... it sucks.
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written by MadScientist, November 19, 2009
I really don't see a divide that's getting worse. Many comedians earn a living poking fun at the silly things people do (or believe in). Of the hundreds of university lecturers I've known over the years I have never known a lecturer in physics, chemistry, math, or biology discourage any interest in the arts; I was always one of the few chemists who had no artistic talent whatsoever. The only lecturers in the arts whom I'd known to be anti-science have been philosophers or lecturers in education. Amongst philosophers it was rare that I'd meet one that was anti-science. Sadly I can't say the same about the lecturers in education; quite a few had rather bizarre ideas about the world with many even promoting the "learning by osmosis" nonsense. Many of the artists I had met had a great interest in science and technology and they have always been coming up with amazing things to do with new technologies.
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written by Juuichi, November 19, 2009
They've been told that "science is a failed paradigm" and that we each have our own individual realities.
I guess they're not aiming for consistency. If all truths are relative, then so is that statement. In any case, in my individual reality science is a very successful paradigm.

On the other side of the quad, fledgling scientists are steered away from the slushiness of poetry and creative writing, in favor of stiff, obfuscatory language that the mere mortal can't understand. The gap is widening, and the average man's ability to appreciate science is falling into the void.
My own experience is the contrary. I find that recent academic papers (and books) are much easier to read than ones from a few decades ago, with clearer, more fluent use of language.

I agree that you shouldn't (and really, can't) divorce science from the humanities. After all, discovering the truths of the world is only half the work. You also need to reveal them to the rest of the world; otherwise the knowledge will simply be lost again when you're gone. To that end you need to use argumentation theory, rhetoric and other tools, to dress up the facts in an appealing narrative; and that is the domain of the humanities.
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Art in Science
written by OnlyCheryl, November 20, 2009
There is no art more beautiful than fractals. Science makes art possible. The chemistry needed to mix paints; haikus are mathematical formulas; fiction writing has specific formulas for plot and character development; photography is a direct result of scientific research; music relies so much on math - quarter notes, half notes, the number of beats, scales, rhythm. Math and physics are a part of art in determining perspective and composition. Nowhere do I see art devoid of science. Science is what gives art its mystery and beauty.
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written by Rustylizard, November 20, 2009
OnlyCheryl & others,

On a related note, Harvard physicist Eric Heller has generated some magnificent art derived from his study of quantum wave behavior in the realm of chaos theory. You can download free screensavers at: http://www.nsf.gov/news/overvi...saver.jsp. He also maintains an art gallery at http://www.ericjhellergallery....e=gallery.

The Teaching Company has a new course – Chaos - taught by Professor Steven Strogatz of Cornell. He teaches the “essence” of that fascinating subject and spares you from having to deal with the difficult math. For any of you JREF skeptics who might be interested in the chaos/fractal discipline, you’ll learn some really strange and exciting stuff.
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written by JoeTheJuggler, November 20, 2009
"Music, art and poetry can and should inform our skepticism."

"Inspire", yes, but "inform"--not so much.
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Glorious Dawn
written by timtimes, November 20, 2009
I like it as well.

Enjoy.
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written by KingMerv00, November 20, 2009
"Inspire", yes, but "inform"--not so much.


Joe, you know I love ya and all the other forumites but pedantry is a buzzkill.

Besides, I can counter your pedantry with my own. One of the definitions for "inform" on dictionary.com is:

4. to animate or inspire.
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re: more art/fractals
written by kunjamuk, November 20, 2009
Speaking of more art in math/science especially fractals. Many Linux distro's come with a mandlebrot (sorry if that's spelled wrong), on a app called xaos. Fire that up on your debian sometime and just zoom in and out a few times with gregorian chants running and see if you can achieve an altered state of conciousness. It's not that hard. mc
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written by Skeptic Doug, November 20, 2009
"Sadly, in many universities, the specter of post modernism has turned many ..."

Jeff Wagg. Please cite sources for this claim, and please name the universities.
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I am mesmerized
written by the bible is useless, November 20, 2009
I agree with Jeff. I can watch/listen to the symphony of science songs over and over again. They are inspirational, and I thing we should let that transcendent sense of wonder at all that science can give us, that awe that Carl Sagan always tried to convey, inform our skepticism. I hope to see more of these and send them to everyone I know.
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Hmmm
written by pxatkins, November 20, 2009
Scientific skepticism is the simple process by which provisional conclusions are reached through a systematic examination of evidence. The tools of science fill our workbench while emotions and spirituality are left still wrapped in cellophane under the table -- pretty, and seemingly pretty useless. As such, it would seem that the humanities would have little to offer the skeptical community. What can poetry tell us of Occam's razor? How can a song express the quadratic equation?[i]

Have you been listening to Deepak Chopra, Jeff? smilies/wink.gif
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On a lighter note...
written by PlasticRectangle, November 20, 2009
Carl Sagan in the Matrix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlpyGhABXRA

The resemblance is uncanny, huh?
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@skeptic doug
written by JeffWagg, November 20, 2009
One source is me. I encountered this at the University of Vermont where the Masters level education department was rife with post modernism, and the phrase "Science is a failed paradigm" was often heard. I've told this story before, and have heard others say "Yes, it's like that here too."
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written by rasmur, November 21, 2009
IMO, that bit of silliness is not art or poetry. This is the true wine.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g
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written by DrMatt, November 23, 2009
I'm working on a symphony that fits this notion...
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