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Written by Matt Fiore   
Friday, 18 December 2009 16:08

There is a common perception that the polygraph has been removed from the American courtroom. Sadly, that perception is false. A quick Google news search yields a long list of recent unfortunate examples. In one story, a convicted child molester submits to periodic polygraph examination after release so that parents can feel more at ease. In another, a man is interrogated using a lie detector. One even shows that the results of a polygraph test can be used as evidence against you in a rape case. So what does American law really have to say about lie detectors? As with all legal questions that haven’t been directly addressed by the Supreme Court, the answer is “it depends,” and “it’s confusing as hell.” The relevant state and federal rules are a shifting patchwork of contradictory statutes and common law.

For example:

Some states have declared the polygraph inadmissible in court regardless of the wishes of the defendant or prosecutor. 1

  • Other states allow polygraph results to be presented to a jury as evidence if both sides agree to let them in. 1

  • Massachusetts doesn’t allow polygraph evidence to be used in court but considers it useful in obtaining warrants. 1

  • No defendant or witness can be forced into taking a lie detector test. 1

  • Yet police investigations frequently use polygraphs to elicit confessions from suspects. 1

  • Admissibility in Federal Court is dependent on whether or not one can convince the judge polygraphs are “relevant and reliable“. (This is known as the “Daubert standard” of scientific evidence.) 2

  • The Employee Polygraph Protection Act of 1988 (EPPA) tightens the reins on most private employers who simultaneously engage in interstate commerce and polygraphy. It prohibits the screening of prospective employees and tells employers they my not coerce, discipline, or discharge their workers based on the results of any such test. 3

  • On the other hand, the EPPA does not apply when an employee is suspected of theft or to government employment opportunities. 3

  • In United States v. Scheffer, the Supreme Court held 8 to 1 (John Paul Stevens dissenting) that polygraph evidence may not be used in court martial proceedings because of its unreliability. They chose not to extend the ruling to all court battles. 4

Confused by the schizophrenia of these positions? That‘s a perfectly normal reaction. Legislatures and the courts are being wooed (no pun intended) by two hopeful suitors: the scientific community and the pseudoscientific community. Each have claimed their share of victories.
On the side of pseudoscience, they promise the moon5:

According to the American Polygraph Association over 250 studies have been conducted on the accuracy of polygraph testing during the past 25 years. Recent research reveals that the accuracy of the new computerized polygraph stytem [sic] is close to 100%.


The The Office of Technology Assessment (R.I.P. 1975-1995), the official science advisors to Congress, disagreed:

The wide variability of results from both prior research reviews and OTA’S own review of individual studies makes it impossible to determine a specific overall quantitative measure of polygraph validity.

These opinions are echoed by the National Academy of Sciences:

[…] the NAS extrapolated that if the test were sensitive enough to detect 80% of spies (a level of accuracy which it did not assume), this would hardly be sufficient anyway. Let us take for example a hypothetical polygraph screening of a body of 10,000 employees among which are 10 spies. With an 80% success rate, the polygraph test would show that 8 spies and 1,992 non-spies fail the test. Thus, roughly 99.6 percent of positives (those failing the test) would be false positives.

Keep in mind that real spies are also the people with the most interest in researching and using countermeasures to avoid detection.

The OTA and NRC are joined by The Journal of Forensic Psychology Practice, The Journal of Applied Psychology, The American Psychological Association, and many others. They all agree that polygraphy is poorly structured, hard to standardize, subjective, vulnerable to countermeasures, and heavily biased. In retrospect, this is an obvious conclusion. Red flags should go up whenever your biggest supporter is Maury Povich.


Footnotes:

1. State Admissibility of polygraph evidence
2. Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals
3. The Employee Polygraph Protection Act of 1988
4. United States v. Scheffer
5. www.truthorlie.com

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written by sailor, December 18, 2009
As I remember (quite likely incorrectly) the first "lie detector" test was done Carl Jung. He used a word association test on all possible suspects and in it included an association to an object that would only have significance to the criminal. The person with the interminable reaction time to this word was the guilty party.
It is possible one could cut down on the number of false positives by using as indicators only questions that would only have significance to a guilty party, about which only the guilty party could have any knowledge.
This is probably not very practical however.
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written by lagnar, December 18, 2009
The polygraph is a very good tool of intimidation to the uninformed. The law enfocement agencies that use these do so to intimidate, and thusly raise their rate of "solved" crimes. The CIA uses them routinely, and we all are aware of the number of spies that have been found as a result. Tea leaves, chicken bones, dowsing and polygraphy all fall into the catagory of snake oil.
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written by KingMerv00, December 18, 2009
Thanks sailor. Now I know Jung was even more full of crap than I thought before. smilies/grin.gif
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written by vino, December 18, 2009
Who needs a polygraph test when you have guys like Dr. Cal Lightman of The Lightman Group. He can ALWAYS tell who is lying! smilies/wink.gif
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written by Kimpatsu, December 18, 2009
@Vino, ironically, in one episode of Lie to Me, Cal Lightman excoriated the polygraph as unscientific.
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Other examples
written by George Maschke, December 18, 2009
Another, very serious example of misplaced reliance on the pseudoscience of polygraphy is its use by some judges, who may have excluded it during the evidentiary phase, for considering sentencing after a person has been convicted of a crime. And sometimes prosecutors rely on polygraphy in deciding whether a suspect who accepts a plea bargain has upheld his end of the bargain.

I think that at least in the United States, polygraphy is one of the more truly harmful bits of pseudoscience around because of misplaced governmental reliance on it.
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In Germany...
written by TF, December 18, 2009
...we know these devices only from watching tabloid talk shows. It's not allowed in an official trial due to it's lack of finding out anything about ones thoughts. Good old Germany, I say.
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written by geirha, December 19, 2009
"Confused by the schizophrenia of these positions?"

I really don't get the meaning of this. Did you perhaps mean split personality disorder instead of schizophrenia? They are completely different things you know ...
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written by MadScientist, December 19, 2009
One of the most disappointing episodes of MythBusters featured the polygraph. The polygraph reminds me of the "body language" woo-woo.
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Reply to MadScientist
written by George Maschke, December 19, 2009
MadScientist,

I, too, was deeply disappointed with the MythBusters lie detector episode. I've posted a critique here:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=100781
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Link to commentary
written by George Maschke, December 19, 2009
Sorry, here's a hyperlinked URL to my commentary on the MythBusters lie detector episode:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=100781
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Depends on the detection method
written by hopfen, December 19, 2009
Just get a couple of willow twigs and you can dowse for liars. At least as reliable as the polygraph method, yet it has the advantages of being simpler, cheaper, quicker, and there is no need for a highly trained operator.
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I agree the polygraph isn't valid
written by gr8white, December 19, 2009
...as a way to tell whether someone is telling the truth or not, but that doesn't mean it can't be a useful tool to elicit information, especially if the polygraphee (?) believes it is valid.

(I was going to reference the use of a photocopier as a "polygraph" to intimidate a suspect into confessing, which actually appeared in "News of the Weird" as a true story involving police in Radnor, PA. However in researching this I discovered it is actually an urban legend originally involving a colander.
http://www.snopes.com/legal/colander.asp The fake polygraph has since turned up as a plot device in various TV crime shows.)
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Re my previous comment
written by gr8white, December 19, 2009
I'm not suggesting the polygraph should be used that way, only that it wouldn't necessarily be completely useless if it were.
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antipolygraph.org
written by santa, December 19, 2009
there is a lot of good information at http://antipolygraph.org regarding the problems/issues and lack of validity of lie detectors
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The Intelligence Community still uses the polygraph
written by garyg, December 19, 2009
I was polygraphed many times (but not since 2002). It's made clear that no decision is made
solely on polygraph results (meaning that they use any suspicious results as indications of places to look
for confirmatory information.

Also there are fewer questions on the test these days, no "fishing" expeditions, nothing about your
sexual behavior, and other lifestyle questions (except continuing drug use or abuse, of course)
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James Randi is the biggest liar and fraud of them all..., Lowly rated comment [Show]
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written by KingMerv00, December 19, 2009
I was polygraphed many times (but not since 2002). It's made clear that no decision is made
solely on polygraph results (meaning that they use any suspicious results as indications of places to look
for confirmatory information.


But a polygraph is not reliable enough to justify poking into people's lives.
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written by KingMerv00, December 19, 2009
Looks like your website is under attack from supernatural forces...


http://dyn.politico.com/member...id=3449994


you really need to add comment moderation to your blasphemy...



You are spamming. Are you asking for your post to be moderated?
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Thanks, George Maschke
written by stevekelner, December 19, 2009
The polygraph is one of the more astonishing pieces of pseudoscience around (despite being invented by a psychologist). A few simple phenomena that can identify lies in some people has been blown up into this miraculous machine to find the truth. (I was astonished by Mythbusters' credulous approach to this.) There is a possibility of a real lie detector, but it will require refined brainscans, to track the pathways used, plus a bit more knowledge of which pathways. As a research psychologist myself, I resent the fact that my field seems to draw the pseudoscientists.
The other area that has gotten a lot of attention on TV is "profiling," which shares the same traits as lie detection myth: Law enforcement officials love it, it's mysteriously powerful, they can outdo Sherlock Holmes in predicting characteristics of people...all crap. I'm a personality psychologist -- the exact field profiling belongs to -- and I can tell you that there isn't a personality test in the world that a moderately intelligence person can't beat or at least mess up reliably. So how can profilers do such an amazing job? Answer: they can't. The FBI propagates the myth for their own purposes, just like the lie detector.
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written by Caller X, December 21, 2009
The Intelligence Community still uses the polygraph


Why would Mensa use a polygraph?

written by garyg, December 19, 2009
I was polygraphed many times (but not since 2002). It's made clear that no decision is made
solely on polygraph results (meaning that they use any suspicious results as indications of places to look
for confirmatory information.


Nothing like current information.

Also there are fewer questions on the test these days, no "fishing" expeditions, nothing about your
sexual behavior, and other lifestyle questions (except continuing drug use or abuse, of course)


By "these days" you mean 2002 ?

Polygraphs are for guilty people.
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written by Caller X, December 21, 2009

written by stevekelner, December 19, 2009
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The other area that has gotten a lot of attention on TV is "profiling," which shares the same traits as lie detection myth: Law enforcement officials love it, it's mysteriously powerful, they can outdo Sherlock Holmes in predicting characteristics of people...all crap. I'm a personality psychologist -- the exact field profiling belongs to -- and I can tell you that there isn't a personality test in the world that a moderately intelligence person can't beat or at least mess up reliably. So how can profilers do such an amazing job? Answer: they can't. The FBI propagates the myth for their own purposes, just like the lie detector.



Umm, doesn't profiling rely on observed behavior? Observed behavior of a number of people over time? They don't ask suspects or random citizens to fill out a questionnaire, do they? For instance, in the case of a serial killer, isn't it reasonable to suppose it is a white male? (I still don't buy that Wayne guy down in Atlanta). To be fair, in the case of the DC Sniper, a spree killer rather than a serial killer, the general consensus was "white male". But statistically, there are some safe bets: white male, lives alone or with a parent, perceived as quiet, a "loner", not an executive, bonus points for killing pets and other animals as a child.

Triple bonus for being turned down for a job with the FBI.
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Profiling and @Caller X
written by stevekelner, December 21, 2009
Patterns of past behavior are very good predictors of patterns of future behavior -- the positive side of this is the "competency" field, which I know rather well -- but that's the easy part for a profiler, or indeed anyone else with enough data points. Someone who likes killing blue-eyed white females in suburban neighborhoods is likely to continue to do so. Not so impressive. The tricky part is extending this to something useful, such as narrowing the range of suspects from millions to a few that you can practically pursue, who are likely suspects. Your "safe bets" don't really narrow it down to a useful level, and in fact many of those traits are identified in someone after they are caught. In practice, there are any number of charming sociopaths, so "loner" doesn't really apply, and some studies indicate the number of female serial killers is increasing. By the way, by those standards, George W. Bush would be considered a potential serial killer, being not only a white male who was charming to some and insensitive to others (he made people nervous in college, including fellow Yalie Garry Trudeau), but also a child who enjoyed blowing up frogs in his youth. Furthermore, while he was technically an executive, he performed poorly and required his father's influence to get there and to get new jobs. I cite this not to claim Dubya is a sociopath (not enough data), but to show how a few "obvious" traits can be applied broadly - the Horoscope Effect, in fact. (I like the "turned down for a job by the FBI" criterion, though.)
Supposedly profilers can not only narrow the range considerably more than that, but can generate all sorts of identifiers they expect to find in the person's background and personality. But there's a big difference between narrowing down the population in a meaningful manner -- say to 5% of the population, still a ridiculously large number for investigation purposes -- and being able to say retrospectively "he's a possible candidate," or "just what I thought." Despite doing things like profiling Jack the Ripper in one of the dumbest TV shows in my memory (and conflicting with other data, at that), I suspect few at the FBI really take "profiling" as the magic bullet you see on TV. Or at least I hope so!
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Polygraph is an interrogation tool...
written by Griz, December 22, 2009
...although law enforcement would like to protect that secret. It's usually used along the lines of "I can tell when you're lying so you might as well tell the truth." Sometimes all a criminal needs is a little prompting to get them to unburden their souls of their transgressions.

And Gr8white, I know someone who has used the fake polygraph a couple times. They simply put a sheet in the copier that said "You're lying!" and hit the button when the interogee said anything. I doubt it really fooled the person being interrogated, but I'm sure it contributed to the overall feeling of "I just want to get this over with" which is why most people end up confessing to something anyway.

In the end, it doesn't matter how you do it, if you manage to convince the other person that you know when they're lying, they'll tell the truth. That's the whole basis of polygraph pseudo-science.
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Worthless
written by mlanger, December 22, 2009
The first company I worked for required all employees to sign a paper agreeing to take a lie detector test. That piece of paper hung out in your file until they suspected you of theft. In my case, I worked there 2 years while in college and eventually became a cashier. One day, my drawer was short $20. They called the polygraph man.

I took the test. I hadn't stolen the money. I suspect I'd either made a mistake giving change (not likely; I was very good at my job) or had been framed by the head cashier who hated my guts. I answered the questions truthfully. I hadn't done anything wrong. No problem.

The examiner also asked, however, if I knew of anyone else who worked at the store (it was retail women's clothing) who was stealing. I did. One of my coworkers routinely went home with merchandise -- and then was gutsy enough to wear it to work! I wasn't about to rat on her, so I told them no, I didn't.

No problem with that, either.

So I guess it's safe to say that if an 18-year-old can fool a polygraph test, it can't be worth very much.
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Marston the pioneer
written by rvitelli, December 22, 2009
]No mention of William Moulton Marston? While not the actual father of polygraphy, he made it a household word through his marketing efforts. He also made legal history since his testimony became the basis for the Fry Standard. Oh, he also created Wonder Woman.

http://drvitelli.typepad.com/p...mazon.html
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@rvitelli
written by stevekelner, December 22, 2009
That's who I was thinking of when I referred to the polygraph being invented by psychologists...yes, a very interesting and strange man...
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written by drdeath, December 22, 2009



Looks like your website is under attack from supernatural forces…

http://dyn.politico.com/member...id=3449994

you really need to add comment moderation to your blasphemy…
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A word about William Moulton Marston...
written by George Maschke, December 22, 2009
It's worth noting that the FBI considered William Moulton Marston, the creator of both the lie detector and the comic book character Wonder Woman, to be a "phony" and a "crackpot." He was also arrested and indicted for mail fraud, though I don't know the outcome of the case. For details, see:

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1162308313
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written by EdipisReks, December 23, 2009
regarding profiling, i found this article from the New Yorker to be very interesting.
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Profiling article
written by stevekelner, December 23, 2009
Thanks for that, EdipisReks - and that's a far better job than I could do explaining why profiling is nonsense.
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written by Potty Training, February 26, 2010
I'd just a lie detector more than a self proclaimed psychic. I always cringe a little when I hear that the police ask for their help to solve a case lol... it's like the family guy episode that was just on LOL
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