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Randi Speaks! ... on World Homeopathy Awareness Week. PDF Print E-mail
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Written by Brandon K. Thorp   

Well, it’s World Homeopathy Awareness Week, and James Randi’s getting into the spirit of the thing with a video, viewable below. Leave a comment here, sure, but also swing by our YouTube page to check out what we’ve got cooking over there.

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@lambrandi@physicist.net
written by Amos M., April 14, 2010
Death is a question now? Gee, I major in English, and I never realized. Normally they have these kind of squiggly marks after them. Or perhaps we're playing Jeopardy...
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An important question or two, Lowly rated comment [Show]
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written by Ashartus, April 15, 2010
Homeopathay and vaccination aren't remotely the same concept. Vaccination involves injecting a dead virus (or a substance with the same protein markers as the virus) which provokes an immune response so that when your body is exposed to the real thing you've already got immunity. Homeopathy involves taking some substance supposedly related to the condition being treated and diluting it to the point where there isn't a single molecule left, then expecting this to cure a disease or condition. Vaccination is based on science, and science clearly shows it works. Homeopathy is based on a medieval superstition, and science shows it doesn't work (results indistinguishable from a placebo).
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I appreciate your response but I would still, Lowly rated comment [Show]
I respectfully ask questions
written by Bea, April 15, 2010

because I want to learn and expand my knowledge so that maybe I will change my mind about certain things but I want proof . . . not just the word of James Randi that it is so.
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@Bea
written by Amos M., April 15, 2010
http://www.acsh.org/healthissu...detail.asp is a start. As far as I know, to get access to the actual peer-reviewed papers, you'd need to subscribe to the scientific journal(s) they're published in, which can be pricey. I'd recommend also looking into the claims of how homeopathy works, and its history. Typing "homeopathy" into the search bar near the top will give you a lot of articles published here, and you can also check quackwatch.org.
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Thanks Amos
written by Bea, April 15, 2010
Quackwatch.com . . . love it.
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written by Dragonblaze, April 15, 2010
@Bea

Living in filth can expose you to some diseases, but if you have immunity to a disease you could be living in a dump but you'll never catch that particular disease. The miasmatic theory that advocated the correlation of filth and all diseases was shown to be wrong long time ago.
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The need to learn....
written by kdv, April 15, 2010
@Bea

You're right to want to see the evidence, rather than just relying on Mr Randi's ( or anybody else's ) word for it. Nobody here would question that, including Mr Randi, I'm sure.

You've already been referred to the quackwatch website, but let me also add the www.sciencebasedmedicine.org site. The bloggers there extensively discuss the evidence for all sorts of topics, including homeopathy, and also examine the way that scientific evidence is gained and evaluated.

The fact that people still believe in an ineffective treatment after 200 years is neither surprising ( after all, some people still believe still believe in astrology after 3-4 thousand years! ), nor does it mean they're necessarily stupid. People believe in things for all sorts of reasons, often based on the fact that they need to believe.

Vaccination and public health measures are both important, and the importance of one in no way diminishes the value of the other. It is a false dichotomy. Polio epidemics occurred in modern, clean countries until a vaccine was developed. Measles likewise, and now it really only occurs widely when the vaccination level drops. Haemophilus vaccine was only introduced in the 90's, and you can see the huge reductions in incidence, despite the fact that sanitation has not noticeably improved since then. On the other hand, smallpox did occur mostly in countries with poor public health measures. Now it doesn't, and the only difference is the vaccine, not any improvement in their sanitation or other public health areas. The world can be an amazing laboratory.

As to whether homeopathic treatments are just sugar pills, or bottles of whatever liquid is used to dilute the original substance, I would call to your attention that, in addition to just looking at the sciences of physics and chemistry, the $1M JREF prize is available to any homeopath who can produce reliable evidence that s/he can tell the difference between their products and sugar pills by any method they like, including the supposed effects on patients. Nobody has yet done so. I wish I could, I could use a spare $1M in my back pocket!

Hope this helps.
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Thanks kdv
written by Bea, April 15, 2010
I appreciate your response. I hate to disappoint you and I'm sorry but I am a Vedic Astrologer . . . so I guess that makes me a quack right?

Thanks though . . . you had the best argument but I read it after I already posted my diatribe. B
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To Bea
written by Ufokeke, April 15, 2010
Bea wrote:

Is there a video or blog about it?



Here you are Bea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZhmG97lYog&feature=PlayList&p=F9A5142F921DE890&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1


Articles on homeopathy and science:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?cat=5

http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html

I'm glad that you are interested in searching for the evidence, keep it up smilies/smiley.gif

All the best,

Ufo

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Scott Adams weighs in on World Homeopathy Awareness week
written by garyg, April 16, 2010
Today's Dilbert has an anti-homeopathy cartoon
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The Dilber comic strip is hysterical
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
http://www.dilbert.com/

Thank you for the link Ufo . . .that was very interesting and James Randi is a bad ass wizard (someone called him that on youtube and I think it's a great description. I was only able to watch Parts 1, 2 and 5. 3 and 4 didn't load.

Now, I can say that it is true that homeopathy has no scientific validity whatsoever, however the placebo effect is still something to consider. The point is feeling better right?

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OK Ufo thanks again for this fantastic program
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
Parts 3 and 4 did upload and I am watching now. The effect of homeopathy on treating animals is really cool. There must be something to it. What do think about that part of this show? I am going to try it on my chihuahua who is suffering with arthritis and cannot even walk anymore. If it helps I will let you know. Thank you again. Great show. Very interesting.
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@Bea
written by Ashartus, April 16, 2010
The placebo effect is highly over-rated; it's mostly confirmation bias (the patient and/or the person giving the medicine expecting someone to get better and remembering any signs of someone getting better while forgetting anything that doesn't show this). That's why it also "works" on children and animals - it's the person giving the medicine thinking there is improvement, even if there isn't. Also, most people tend to see a medical practitioner or take medicine when they're feeling at their worse, and often they'll be feeling better later on regardless of whether there's treatment or not (particularly for chronic conditions). There's a good article on the placebo effect here: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=4304.

Basically, the placebo effect doesn't really "cure" anything serious; it's mostly subjective.
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Astrology, spirit guides, meditation, power of the mind and healing . . .
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
Ashartus . . . you are clearly super smart as are many skeptics. Now, I really want your honest opinion not mockery please but a real opinion of the following story.

Lito was under medical care when the following happened. I sincerely want to know what skeptics think without sarcasm and judgment. And don't make fun of Merlin either . . . James Randi looks like he could be a Merlin himself. There is room for all kinds of magicians in this world.





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thanks for your honest opinion
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
Merlin wanted to teach me about the emotional causes behind physical illnesses. For some reason, Merlin likes to do things in threes and within three weeks I was guided to three men afflicted with the Aids virus. Each one experienced a highly accelerated healing process after just one session with me.

I had known Lito for about a year. When I came to his apartment I was amused at his choice of décor which was simply saturated with images of cherubs absolutely everywhere. I made my way to Lito's bedroom which was also covered in an abundance of cherubic imagery.

I was shocked when I looked upon Lito's forlorn form. He was a shadow of the beautiful bright light I knew. Lito was so weak that he was unable to get out of bed. I even had to carry him to the bathroom and it was easy. He was skin and bones.

I took a deep breath and I got busy. I studied his chart and I read for him for about an hour. At one point, I said, "You know Lito, Jupiter is in Sagittarius for this entire year and it's transiting your ninth house which is the house of God and I'm getting that this Jupiter in Sagittarius transit is definitely going to help you to heal."

"I think I'm dying Bea."

"Well, you certainly don't look too good my friend, but I don't think I'd be guided here if you were going to die."

"Do you think I'm going to die?" Lito asked me.

"I don't know Lito. It's your decision if you do. I'm just here to see if I can help you understand why you've created this situation. Now, Lito I want to guide you on a journey to see if your own soul can give you the answers. Is that O.K.?"

"Yea."

"So close your eyes and breathe deeply." I put Lito through the relaxation technique and then I started to guide him by prompting his higher consciousness to give him a vision, "O.K. Lito, you're outside somewhere. Just allow the image to form of where you are and trust what you see and whenever you're ready describe it to me."

THIS IS WHAT LITO SAW:

I'm standing in a field of green grass. I see lots of flowers, colorful wildflowers of orange, yellow and white. The sky is blue with white clouds. The sun is bright. There is a cool breeze.

I see an old Egyptian pyramid made of stone. It's dark and musty inside. I see crates with coffins in them ready for shipping. There is an ornate sarcophagus of a woman with a snake on her forehead. Her hands are together in prayer. It's dull and tarnished and inside there are cobwebs.

A woman enters the room. She has long black hair and olive skin. She wears a band around her forehead with a ruby in the middle. Her name is Annaditi. She points to the empty coffins. She says, "I know you think you are going to die but don't worry. It's not your time." She takes me to the back through a little door. There is a pond there. She asks me to feel the water. It feels slippery and dirty. I see my reflection. I look unhappy and sad. I ask her, "What should I do now?"

"I want you to communicate with your image."

I ask my image, "Why are you so sad?" My image says, "You don't listen to me."
"What do you want me to listen to?"

"Listen to your heart and the best things will happen to you. I need you to be more gentle, more kind hearted when you communicate with people."

"I'll try, but it's hard."

"It's only hard because you've forgotten how to be more loving."
Annaditi takes me to the top of the pyramid. It's so peaceful here. I see grass and flowers all over. Annaditi gives me her headband.

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Sorry it had to be posted in segments
written by Bea, April 16, 2010

I go up a path of clouds. I see a centaur coming down. His name is Zeus. He says he wants to take me to the other side. I climb on his back. He gives me a trumpet. He wants me to play it. We reach a bed of clouds. It's very soft. I see cherubs playing everywhere. They are happy to see me. I sit on a cloud and the cherubs are all around me, praising me. They say "We miss you. Welcome back." They're playing harps and I'm playing my trumpet. After some time Zeus says it's time to go back. He takes me back to the place we met. He wants me to keep his trumpet.

I go back to the pond in the pyramid. I look at my reflection. I look young and I'm smiling. I go down to the room at the entrance. The sarcophagus is all shiny and golden. There are no cobwebs inside anymore. There is a golden light shining through the front door and it is filling up the whole room. The coffins are gone.

When Lito opened his eyes, I was very excited and I said, "Lito, did you know that Jupiter in Sagittarius is exactly the same thing as a Centaur named Zeus?"
Lito didn't understand."What do you mean?"

"The symbol of Sagittarius is a Centaur and Jupiter is the Roman name of Zeus. In other words Zeus and Jupiter is the same God in different languages so "Jupiter in Sagittarius" is the exact same thing as a Centaur named Zeus."

"Really?"

I laughed and said,"Yes really. So, you see, God is definitely going to heal your skinny little ass."

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Thanks again
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
I phoned Lito the following day. "Hey Lito, I called to see how you were doing?"

"Bea, after you left yesterday, I sweat for the rest of the day and all through the night and this morning I feel so much better. Bea, thank-you for saving my life."

"I didn't save your life Lito. Thank-you for letting me take you to a place where you could save your own life."


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Last bit
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
The next time I saw Lito was at my birthday party four months later. When he walked in the room, I almost fell over. Standing in front of me was Hercules. I mean this skinny little guy who looked like the Pillsbury doughboy before he got sick had more muscles than he knew what to do with. I was blown away. I yelled out, "Oh my God, Lito. Do you know what this means?"

"What?"

"This means we need to be on Oprah!"
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@ Bea
written by pxatkins, April 16, 2010
I hate to disappoint you and I'm sorry but I am a Vedic Astrologer . . . so I guess that makes me a quack right?


Vedic Astrologer ... cool name. Keep asking questions, especially of your astrological beliefs, and test it.
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written by burpy, April 16, 2010
@Bea, to give a skeptical response to your story would take many pages, notwithstanding the fact that none of us know your friend or his medical history or what medications he might be taking. I hope you don´t think that is a cop-out, but without giving you the background of all the science and theory of logic that underpins the skeptical worldview, any answer given here might seem trite at best, or insulting at worst. What I suggest, is that you do what many of us here have done, and read a skeptical primer such as Michael Shermer´s ´Why People Believe Wierd Things´. Also I have heard Carl Sagan´s ´Demon Haunted World´ is good, although I haven´t read it.
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Well it's a start
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
Thanks burpy. I see what you mean. He had the AIDS virus but I do not know what meds he was on. It's been 10 years and he is totally healthy ever since.

What really blows me away is that he could not possibly know on a conscious level that a Centaur named Zeus would be the same thing as Jupiter in Sagittarius. I thought that was very interesting.

Not sure what reading a book called "Demon's Haunted World" would achieve? Is it Chip Coffey's bio?
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Dilbert's double shot
written by flyinlion, April 16, 2010
Scott Adams, Dilbert's creator doubles up on homeopathy and astrology - all in four hilarious panels.
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That Dilbert piece was great
written by Bea, April 16, 2010
I put it on my facebook page.
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the homeopathic experiment
written by m73, April 16, 2010
interested readers would probably benefit from reading the "opposite side" account of the experiment that never took place:

http://www.vithoulkas.com/cont...3/lang,en/

as for me, I don't believe in homeopathy; however, almost all stories have two faces, and I like to know them both
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read the article
written by Bea, April 17, 2010
and it does cast doubt the JREF's findings.

I never quite got the whole Homeopathy thing however I did get some for my Chihuahua's arthritis pain and I will give an honest post if he responds to it . . . or not. I will try anything non toxic to help my baby.
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@ Bea
written by grae, April 17, 2010
"Demon Haunted World" is written by Carl Sagan, who is most well-known for his "Cosmos" television series (which is also worth checking out). It's about science and critical thinking, and using them to separate truth from wishful thinking and myth. Sagan is one of science's most eloquent and enthusiastic ambassadors; I highly recommend his work.
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OK . . . how would a skeptic explain this fascinating study of water
written by Bea, April 18, 2010
and it's ability to change when exposed to different elements from music to anger


http://www.nativevillage.org/Archives/2009 Archives/APRIL News/April 2009 News V1/Braiding Through Water.htm

I was guided to this upon googling a scientist named Victor Woolfe and found this study and thought it would be interesting to see what skeptics have to say about it.
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written by Ufokeke, April 18, 2010
Hi Bea,

I didn't open your link, but it seems very similar to Masaru Emoto's claims, this might be a good start:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=164976

Be patient and keep looking for the answers, may I suggest that you join the JREF forums, it's a great place to discuss these things in more detail.

http://forums.randi.org/forumindex.php

Best,

Ufo
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Hi Ufo
written by Bea, April 19, 2010
The water test could be easily duplicated at JREF . . . so why don't they?

By any chance did you watch 60 minutes last night April 18, 2010
21st Century Snake Oil
Medical Con Men Who Prey on Dying Victims

This was despicable beyond words and proves (to me anyway) that there is way more harm being done by bogus medical science yet unproven . . . then by the holistic/alternative practices based on prevention, nutrition, hygiene, herbs etc . .

No one is charging $125,000 plus . . . to lie to a dying man that he will be 100% cured from an incurable disease that I am aware of in the holistic world and I am not talking about faith healing which is just as bogus.

The only article I could find here regarding the promotion of stem cell research was this one . . . and it is not a very good analogy to compare stem cell research to faith healing. Neither one have been proven to work just promises of what could be if you just give me money to praise the lord . . . or do research . . .

Billions of dollars are being spent in labs that could be spent helping people.

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/453-science-vs-faith-healing.html

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written by Dragonblaze, April 19, 2010
Well, I would not be too sure of that. Here are some prices charged for alternative cancer "cures":

The RANA System programs costing up to $35,000.

Burzynski Research Institute. In one case parents were trying to raise $125,000 so that their young daughter with a brain tumour could receive "experimental treatment". The girl died.

Century Nutrition's Tijuana Clinic - now happily defunct - $15,000 a WEEK.

Gerson Institute $4,900 a week.

Oasis of Hope Clinic up to $300,000

Hospital Santa Monica(Donsbach Clinic) basic fee for 12 days $23,000

And that is just a few...
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Thanks Dragonblaze
written by Bea, April 19, 2010
Now why don't you make a list of what traditional procedures cost please?

Scientists have poisoned the planet with DDT, Nuclear fallout, pesticides, asbestos, lead and mercury poisoning and that's just off the top of my head.

As a result scientists and their poisons sickened not only the planet . . . but all it's people and the worst offenses have only been in the last 50 years.

There are 6.5 billion people on this Earth . . . saving lives should not be as much of a concern as saving the Earth for future generations. Taking responsibility for your health as opposed to putting it in the hands of a doctor with a prescription pad is what should be our focus . . . but there's no money in it and that is all that medical science cares about . . . is the billions and billions of dollars it makes . . . making us sick and then claiming to make us well.




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written by Dragonblaze, April 19, 2010
Where I live - UK - it costs nothing at all. NHS healthcare is free, all I pay is £7.50 for any prescribed medicine. If I have to go to hospital, I'll never see a bill from them. Sure, I pay National Insurance, but that is a minuscule amount compared to what those clinics listed above charge.

Besides, haven't you heard about patented homeopathic remedies? Why do you think people manufacture those? They are by no means free, as a brief googling showed. £6.07 for a few sugar pills that have nothing more than a placebo effect is pretty steep. The same applies to other natural remedies. Very few of them come cheap. For example, Licorice & Ginger Formula 90 caps £12.50. Thanks, but I'll save money and keep my health by using conventional medicine.

Well, at least now you know that there are people who charge $125,000 plus . . . to lie to a dying man that he will be 100% cured from an incurable disease in the holistic world.
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Thanks Dragonblaze
written by Bea, April 20, 2010
however I live in the United States and I am talking about us obviously. France and Canada and many countries have free health care, but not the U.S.

Stem cell research is not holistic.

I use herbs . . . in fact herbal tinctures and they work fantastic!

Thanks but I will keep my healthy with Mother Earth's pharmacy.

Cheers!
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I do want to acknowledge the scientists
written by Bea, April 20, 2010
and biologists that are working toward the protection and improvement of the planet and its residents. Like in any field including the holistic . . . there are those who are just greedy and profit based looking for the next magic bullet and then there are those who are truly wanting to make the world a better place.

Now I wish skeptics would understand that even if 90% of the psychics out there are fake there are 10% and I am one of them that have a skill that defies logic and I do and I use it wisely and I give my gift away all the time to those whom I feel would benefit. And those who pay me are happy to do so.
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written by Ufokeke, April 21, 2010
Bea wrote:

The water test could be easily duplicated at JREF . . . so why don't they?



There are no good and independently repeated studies that can back up this paranormal claim. JREF has contacted Emoto for the Million Dollar Challenge, he declined. Masaru Emoto himself commented that it's more art than science. There's nothing to it Bea.

Bea Wrote:

Now I wish skeptics would understand that even if 90% of the psychics out there are fake there are 10% and I am one of them that have a skill that defies logic and I do and I use it wisely and I give my gift away all the time to those whom I feel would benefit. And those who pay me are happy to do so.


We have looked and looked and looked, yet we have not found the 10% you are speaking of. There is a similar prize in almost every country which is offered to anyone with a skill like that, in my country the prize is 10 000 euros, but it also acts as a qualifier for the JRED MDC. My question to you is, why don't you take just 1 day off from your schedule and earn 1 million dollars? It's very easy, just contact Randi, say what you can do, and then show up at a later time and do it. If you don't like or need the extra money, I know a few charities that would be happy to take it and make the world a better place.

Best,

Ufo
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Thanks Ufo
written by Bea, April 22, 2010
You've been really cool and I appreciate that. It is really hard to do a "scientific study" of what a real psychic does and here is why.

I read for Lisa Marie Presley at her birthday party in February of '09 and the first thing I said to her was, "Are you doing a musical with your Dad's songs and she said, "No" and I said, "Really? Because I am seeing a big musical production with your Dad's songs." And she looked annoyed and I felt pretty dumb I must say. . . but in December of '09 Priscilla Presley announced the opening of Viva Elvis by Cirque du Soleil in Las Vegas.

I could give you so many examples like that ... but I have already learned from skeptics that is not good enough for science.

And I hope James Randi got his money out of Goldman Sachs ..
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written by Ufokeke, April 22, 2010
Bea wrote:


I read for Lisa Marie Presley at her birthday party in February of '09 and the first thing I said to her was, "Are you doing a musical with your Dad's songs and she said, "No" and I said, "Really? Because I am seeing a big musical production with your Dad's songs." And she looked annoyed and I felt pretty dumb I must say. . . but in December of '09 Priscilla Presley announced the opening of Viva Elvis by Cirque du Soleil in Las Vegas.


This might be a good chance for introspection. I checked out the homepage of Circue de Soleil and their Viva Elvis show.

http://www.cirquedusoleil.com/en/shows/viva-elvis/show/creators.aspx

Granted, I did a quick search, but I coudn't find Lisa Marie on any of the staff, creator or singer lists. What exactly did she "DO" for this show? Only announced the forthcoming opening in a TV ad or some live show?

Here is what Wikipedia says about the show:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirque_du_Soleil#Viva_Elvis

The gala premiere was originally scheduled for January 2010[51][52] on what would have been Elvis' 75th birthday, but was postponed until February 19, 2010.


So, it's the 75th birthday of the King of Rock 'n' Roll, I don't think it takes a psychic or anything else paranormal to think / predict that there's going to be a "big musial production with Elvis songs" pretty soon. Nor does it take anything paranormal to have the idea that maybe His daughter would be somehow involved in that. Or what do you think? Even then, it seems that she didn't have anything, or much at all, to "DO" about the show in the first place.

Humans are pattern seeking animals, we are very very good at it, and it's automatic in all of us. It takes a bit of research and introspection to notice it in our behaviour. This is also one of the many reasons behind various paranormal beliefs.

All the best,

Ufo
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You are absolutely right Ufo
written by Bea, April 22, 2010
I was surprised that I knew about it before she did. One would assume logically should such an event be in the works, his own daughter would know about it right?

OK . . . well let's continue because Elvis has been around me for years and the fact that I was booked at his baby girl's birthday party is a great confirmation for me . . . if not for you.

In November of 2009, I got the hit to work in a public venue. )I'm a total hermit and like it that way.) I ended up for at a store on Glendale Blvd in Atwater Village for only three days.

The first day, I read for a guy named Armen. He's a classical pianist but gigs have been slow and I told him that would change but I said, “You need to change your whole demeanor and get rid of the Tuxedo and you need to be a little more flamboyant, you know, like Elvis.”

He and his partner Jake looked at each other stunned. And I was just as surprised when Armen said, “I met Elvis Presley on this street in the 1960’s and I was just telling Jake here before we walked in the store, that there should be a plaque saying, “Armen met Elvis here!”

Then he got another reading over the phone and I invited him to join me on Facebook. It turns out we have one mutual friend named Michael Edelstein and Michael is the event planner who booked me for Lisa Marie's party.

Now, I could go on and on with dozens of stories like that . . . but I really prefer not to. Skeptics don't like it.
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written by Ufokeke, April 22, 2010
Bea wrote:

was surprised that I knew about it before she did. One would assume logically should such an event be in the works, his own daughter would know about it right?



You should be more careful here, think about it. This is what you said to her:

""Are you doing a musical with your Dad's songs and she said, "No" and I said, "Really? Because I am seeing a big musical production with your Dad's songs." And she looked annoyed and I felt pretty dumb I must say. . . "

So, in retrospect, she did NOT DO the musical (remember, your prediction was that SHE would be DOING the show..), afaik, she had nothing whatsoever to do with it. This is not a hit, not even close. Everyone at the time could've guessed that there was going to be "a big musical production of Elvis songs" in his 75th birthday, heck, I could've predicted that 25 years ago. It is crystal clear that Lisa Marie as well knew _this much_ at the time, and before meeting you, as did pretty much every living person on earth.

To make it clear, you were WRONG in your prediction that Lisa Marie would be doing a musical of Elvis' songs near his 75th birthday. Btw. this is not a guess I would class even close to being paranormal in nature.

You were RIGHT in that there was going to be "a big musical production of Elvis songs" close to his 75th birthday.

Nothing paranormal in that.

Ok. I don't see anything paranormal in your other story either. You might be interested in seeing this documentary by Brian Dunning where he, among other things, explains how basic math shows that coincidences similar to your story are nothing special, in fact, it would be strange if interesting coincidences would not happen to normal people all the time. Here:

http://herebedragonsmovie.com/

I too would recommend the book by Carl Sagan 'The Demon Haunted World', and / or 'How We Know What Isn't So' by Thomas Gilovich:

http://www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271957916&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/How-Know-What-Isnt-Fallibility/dp/0029117062

All the best, and keep questioning,

Ufo
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To Bea
written by Ufokeke, April 22, 2010
Oh, and I REALLY recommend you to join the actual forums, it is just so much easier to write, edit, and follow the discussion. See you there smilies/smiley.gif

Best,

Ufo
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Well Ufo . . . see that is the thing
written by Bea, April 22, 2010
I just see what I see and the interpretation is . . . what would you skeptics call it . . . subjective. Is that the right word? I did not know I was even going to read for Lisa Marie that night and the furthest thing from my mind was Elvis's birthday. I don't even know when it is to be honest.

The point is the what I saw was correct and the logical side of my brain made an assumption that being his daughter . . . she would be involved.

I also read for the daughter of George Carlin that night. . . and I said, "Oh, he's hanging out with Lenny Bruce now." and she said, "I knew it!" That made her very happy.

Lenny has been around me since 1997. Would you like to hear the one about skeptic comic Lewis Black who did a tribute for Lenny Bruce on the 40th anniversary of his death in September of '06 and in November of '06 he was at my house getting a reading just because Lenny wanted to thank him. smilies/wink.gif

But Ufo I really want to respect where I am and skeptics are so attached to their way of thinking there is just no way they will believe me . . . and believe me I have tried and tried. It would completely capsize their whole way of thinking and they are not ready to let go of the empirical mindset.


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Thanks for the invite Ufo
written by Bea, April 22, 2010
but I really don't want to get bashed. You've been really nice though. Thanks a lot. B
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Another winner in Homeopathy
written by Bea, May 01, 2010
Topricin is a homeopathic topical cream for arthritis pain which I got for my chihuahua and I told a good friend suffering with arthritis to try it and she swears it has helped her more then anything she has ever tried.

Homeopathy has really helped my dog and I never would have even thought of it if it were not for this thread leading me to a video where vets use homeopathic remedies for their animals. Thanks so much Mr. Randi!!

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Just for you Ufo. . .
written by Bea, May 01, 2010
This is another example of why it is impossible to recreate what I do! Life is not lived in a lab under "scientific controls!" When are skeptics going to understand that?

This Magic Moment


Working with spirit guides is about listening and trusting what comes through. I read for Kim a couple of months ago and got the hit to email her the following on facebook …

So Kim

Between Kim and You

Beatrice Marot April 26 at 6:46pm

Have you gotten any castings for a buxom flamboyant Maitre D of a chic nightclub yet?smilies/wink.gif I still see you doing that!!

Kim April 27 at 1:31am

Well … I was going to say “very close” … I auditioned for a part in a play called “Storyville” about New Orleans Jazz, where I play a flamboyant Madame of a New Orleans whorehouse, but I was on my way to a table read for a new play tonight when you FB’ed me …

Beatrice, the play tonight was called “It Always Rains on Sunday” and I had no idea what my part was until I got there tonight … It’s the part of a buxom and big butt loudmouth named “Big Bertha” that runs a nightclub in North Carolina called the El Dorado! LOLOL You are too good!

Beatrice Marot April 27 at 6:25am

lmao … that is awesome … and ain’t it the truth!!! Woo hoo!

UPDATE

Beatrice Marot April 30 at 11:31am

Kim, my most recent angel in spirit is the man known in the voice over world as "The Voice of God" Don LaFontaine . . . who by the way was married to a fine sista . . . a singer named Nina Whitaker.

I just met a man last night who was Don's personal sound engineer and guess what the name of his company is . . .

El Dorado Recording Services!





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