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For Good Reason: Paul Provenza - Satiristas PDF Print E-mail
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Written by JREF   
Saturday, 22 May 2010 12:20

Paul Provenza, the celebrated comic and critic, talks about his book Satiristas, which focuses on rationalist issues through the lens of transgressive and subversive comedy. He explores the social criticism of the biggest names in comedy, and whether their intelligence should instead be focused on public service. He describes why his background in comedy allowed the celebrities featured in his book to be so open and transparent with him. He relates the impact the interviews had on him personally. He talks about the nihilism of some of the leading comedians and satirists in America today, and shares his personal views about the ultimate meaning of life in a godless, naturalistic universe.

He talks about the motivation of leading comedians, and whether or not they intend to impact society with their comedic art. He talks about comedians who preach ideology, and great comedic artists like Tim Minchin who advance a particular point of view in entertaining ways. He argues that the leading comedians in the United States are like the spiritual descendants of the revolutionary Founding Fathers. He talks about Jay Leno and why he avoids controversial social issues in his comedy. He explores how aware the famous social critic comedians interviewed in his book, such as George Carlin and Craig Ferguson, are of their role in society. He explores the impact of Bill Maher, Janeane Garofalo, and Penn Jillette on American public policy. He also explores to what extent being “preachy” harms laughs. And he explains why leading comedians may be different from the common man, and how they embrace their differences, seeing the world in productive and unique ways.

Also, in this week’s Honest Liar commentary, Jamy Ian Swiss is flattered to have received an invitation to be included in a prestigious directory.

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written by JimC, May 22, 2010
He argues that the leading comedians in the United States are like the spiritual descendants of the revolutionary Founding Fathers.


Oh, puh-leeze. Could he possibly have a bigger ego? OF COURSE he would think so, being a comic himself. When all you have is a hammer, etc. There's nothing less funny than comics who start taking themselves WAY too seriously.

And remember that Peter Cook dryly said of his own satire club, The Establishment, that it was modeled after the Berlin cabarets "which did so much to prevent the rise of Hitler."

He also explores to what extent being “preachy” harms laughs


Perhaps he should take his own advice.

And he explains why leading comedians may be different from the common man


I have this funny feeling he really thinks he's BETTER than the "common man".

If you want a better comparison, try Saul Alinsky: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

But Alinsky also wrote, "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
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written by CasaRojo, May 22, 2010
Thank the FSM for our comedians!
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written by Xiphos, May 22, 2010
"He also explores to what extent being “preachy” harms laughs."

Provenza might want to have a very, very, very long talk with Bill Maher about that concept. Also, while he's at it, he should also tell Maher he has no business being on a round table with George Will on ABC's This Week. That beating he took at Will's hands was painful to watch.
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written by philosaur, May 24, 2010
@JimC:

Your review of this book you didn't read totally helped me out. I was obviously stupid for thinking it might be interesting.

You wouldn't happen to *not* be an accountant, would you? I've been looking for help with my taxes.

Or maybe there's a movie you haven't seen that you could recommend...
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written by ws1o, May 24, 2010
One (ONE!) thing Rush Limbaugh has gotten right is that liberals never seem much good at drawing and keeping an audience. I wonder if it's because they try so hard to be rational when they pick apart nutty far-right notions. That's not particularly entertaining, just kinda reminds people of the boring lectures they put up with back in school. It's just not crazy enough. The far-right wingnuts have figured out that passionate, shrill, semicoherent rants get attention and whether the viewers/listeners/readers agree or not, spouting nutty notions gets a bigger audience.
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written by rg807, May 24, 2010
Sam Kinison was really, really funny. So was Richard Pryor. They didn't bother explaining why they were funny, they just took lifes idiosyncracies and poked them a bit. And Sam was a preacher! This guy needs to take a page from them because he's not quite at their level..
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